# Adding wax foundation to a foundation-less frame

**URL:** <https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/adding-wax-foundation-to-a-foundation-less-frame/31248>\
**Category:** Beekeeping - Basics\
**Created:** [August 23, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/adding-wax-foundation-to-a-foundation-less-frame/31248 "2021-08-23T22:33:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![KSJ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/ksj/32/26330_2.png) [@KSJ](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/KSJ)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/adding-wax-foundation-to-a-foundation-less-frame/31248/1 "2021-08-23T22:33:14Z")

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Hi All, I have a really strange question: come spring I will be adding another brood box to my hive, as recommended by a local beek here in Canberra. My question is, my first brood box is all foundation-less frames and I have been advised that the second brood box should contain wax foundation. This is all fine, but the spare frames that I have to put in the second brood box have the wooden strip glued into the groove where the foundation would normally sit. Can I still add the foundation to these frames or do I need to order more frames? I thought I could wire them and still use them as foundation-less? Any advice or ideas welcomed. Thanks KSJ

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**Author:** ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/adding-wax-foundation-to-a-foundation-less-frame/31248/2 "2021-08-23T23:09:06Z")

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Whenever I come across frames with glued in starter strips, I simply break the starter strip off with a pair of pliers before trimming the rest off with a fishing knife back to the top bar. Then I fit the foundation up to the top bar, without worrying about the groove, because the top wire is fairly close to the top bar anyway.

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**Author:** ![Lurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@Lurch](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Lurch)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/adding-wax-foundation-to-a-foundation-less-frame/31248/3 "2022-04-04T01:04:53Z")

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How do people fix the wax foundation or a wax starter strip to the top of the frame? I have had it continuously fall off or the whole sheet collapse and make a cross comb mess in the super.

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**Author:** ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/adding-wax-foundation-to-a-foundation-less-frame/31248/4 "2022-04-05T19:50:45Z")

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Here’s two of my videos on the subject.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/d/a/da33b455f6065015669f33bfcb5036cbc72da53d.jpeg "BEEKEEPING 12V. EMBEDDING TOOL.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9FaYpz9frc)

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/e/c/ecc5c4eb97f7a1fc988794da8ba3c382cb1c269c.jpeg "Beekeeping: Wire Tensioning Tool.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ahMwkl5HUQ)

cheers