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Advice needed: Bees seem to reject Floframes

#74

Try smashing some burr comb with a touch of honey in it on the frames too. I did it on section of the bottom the frame. At least it gets them snooping around

#75

Hi Romeo, requeening may be the answer. However couple that with making sure that all the brood frames contain mostly worker comb & the colony is free of disease. This is what I’ll be doing in the coming days.
cheers

#76

It’s not unusual to not get a harvest in the first year of starting a colony whether it’s using Flow frames or traditional frames, it’s more about building the colony. It’s my understanding that SA has a dismal honey season this year so not getting a harvest this year also wouldn’t be uncommon. Here in the West we also had a poor year and there are plenty who got no harvest so I wouldn’t stress too much. I’m not saying the queen wasn’t a contributing factor but it is worth considering that the bees just didn’t have anything for their pantry.
There is a difference between a dud colony and a dud year. :wink:

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#77

Confucius — ‘The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.’
So here goes… How do you post photos on my messages. I have pressed every symbol on the top to no avail. Please help so I can share some pictures.

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#78

You can upload pictures via

or use copy paste for pictures. However I’ve tried multiple times to upload videos to no avail.

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#79

Thanks Martha. That symbol doesn’t show on my top row however I found it at the bottom right hand corner. I’m using an Android phone. It takes me to a camera and camcorder icons so I guess at now Ican take a picture and load it. I’ll try to work out how to get to my gallery. Much appreciated.

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#80

Just click the symbol I showed you and it will ask you to browse for photos on your phone. Choose what you want and there ya go

#81

I’ve done it on another topic! Condensation in top cover.
Thank you Martha!

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#82


Plenty of fodder for the bees so no excuse for not making any honey. Cold rainy days over here. Will open up hive on a nice day and take some photos of the brood frames.

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#83

It’s beautiful! I see the flow hive back there too! How cold is it with such lush tropical landscape?

#84

Cold and wet winters here in South Australia. And in summer it’s bloody hot.

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#85

Romeoc, I’m in my 3rd season of bees and finally my 3 fully developed hives are filling my flow hive supers. I had to make several adaptations in order to get the bees interested in it. The thing I did differently this year than last aside from a developed hive is I bought some wax and coated the frames with it and the bees have less work to do and hence are now filling it up. Don’t give up because once you discover what works it’s going to be amazing! :smiley:

#86

Did you purchase three flowhives at the one time? Wow
I have tried the wax twice and nothing happened. Anyway, on the next nice day I will open up the hive and take some pictures of the frames and post them. Perhaps that might tell a story.

#87

Hi Roeoc,
Do you have any other beekeepers in your area, not necessarily with Flow hives to get an idea if there is an all year round honey production without moving hive to another area. Where I am we get buckets of honey in a very short period, as little as 2 months then its just hive maintenance for 10 months.
If you don’t get a flow during Winter you would not expect to see anything in the Flow supers.
If its a good day say over 22 deg C and sunny photos of your brood box frames as they would be more informative to the group.
But personally I would not disturb the hive till Spring. My bees took 18 months to start filling my Flow frames but once started (filled them in about 3 weeks) all was good for the following years nectar flow.

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#88

Thanks busso. There is another Flowhiver a km and a half away and he harvested three frames last weekend. My only problem is I am at work during the week and the weather invariably seem to be good to open up the hive during the week!
However, if you are saying to leave them alone then perhaps that’s what I’ll do.

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#89

Yes, its hard to wait… paid out all that money and the bees don’t want to play.
One thing is for sure though, if your brood is bursting they will go upstairs. It is in their nature to save honey for the lean times.
There is a lot of work to do in the flow frames as well. The bees will coat every single cell with wax. I think they did every last one of mine before they put a single drop of honey in:unamused:

You spoke of a swap of a couple of frames. Has that happened? Could certainly kick start yours if there was frames with honey.

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#90

Haven’t done the swap as yet as we’re going into winter. Will try in spring.

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#91

Hi @busso, do you mean for Romeo to swap honey flow frames with his neighbour? I would be soooo not doing that (if that’s what you mean). The risk of catching something that’s not in my apiary yet is too great. Not knowing where the neighbour got his bees from, what they were exposed to and such.
I hardly ever even swap frames between my own hives, and never between apiaries. If I swap between hives, I take really good records, so once I find something nasty, I can trace it back.
Once you had AFB in the neighbourhood you become very very cautious and aware.
I would advise Romeo to be patient and wax the flow frames. If there’s no flow, nothing will help. If there is a flow, the bees will go up.
One thing you could do @Romeoc is to move a frame from the brood box up into the flow super in spring. That will speed the bees up for sure.

#92

Or paranoid…
And fair enough, I’d be the same. However it’s not your neibourhood. :wink:
Using your logic, where did your bees come from in the first place?
Use only reputable dealers? Define reputable. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

#93

Hi Romeo, I’m in Adelaide and my bees spent near the whole season not filling the flow hive but recently with the rain and sunshine I was surprised to find them finally filling the flow frames. I had been about to pack it down and give up for the season. A peek in the back window today showed the middle frames will probably be fully capped in a week or so, they are filling the few rows by the back window. They are busy prepping the outside frames by the look from the side windows so I reckon I might have a flow hive full after all. I think a combination of hot dry weather and nectar scarcity with a not quite ready hive led to their reluctance previously. I’m looking forward to Spring now I know they can do it and I’m sure yours will be too with advice and time.
Helen

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