# Aggressive bees attacking anything within 20 metres of hive
**URL:** https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Tags:** australia
**Created:** [September 17, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549 "2020-09-17T04:47:36Z")
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### Author:  [@JoeJac](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JoeJac)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/1 "2020-09-17T04:47:36Z")
What causes a hive to raise aggression levels so that they attack anyone within 20 metres of the hive?
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### Author:  [@JimM](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JimM)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/2 "2020-09-17T05:26:20Z")
You say raise levels so I assume this is not their normal behaviour.
These can make bees more agressive but dont always; losing a queen, new queen, drought, food shortage, weather,thunder, machinery esp vibration, robbing, stressors. Im sure there are more,things like smells toxins might affect them.
Has anything changed in their environment?
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### Author:  [@JoeJac](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JoeJac)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/3 "2020-09-17T07:37:29Z")
No major changes but they were relocated 3 months ago, only began the very aggressive behaviour in the last three weeks. Unfortunately, they have starting stinging neighbours, and relocation during our extreme Melbourne lockdowns is not possible due to ridiculous curfews and 5 km driving limits.
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### Author:  [@Stevo](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Stevo)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/4 "2020-09-17T08:01:46Z")
When did you set the colony up and when did you last inspect them?
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### Author:  [@JoeJac](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JoeJac)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 8:08am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/5 "2020-09-17T08:08:15Z")
Colony established from a swarm in Nov 2019, inspected regularly every two to three weeks.
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### Author:  [@Stevo](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Stevo)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 8:15am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/6 "2020-09-17T08:15:22Z")
Did you requeen the swarm?
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### Author:  [@JoeJac](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JoeJac)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 8:32am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/7 "2020-09-17T08:32:04Z")
No, but I have relocated them twice.
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### Author:  [@Stevo](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Stevo)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 8:49am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/8 "2020-09-17T08:49:26Z")
Any idea what strain they are or are they ferals?
Could just be that they were always a bit agro and moving them to where you have them now has made that more apparent, they would have also been increasing their population in the last few weeks with spring build up.
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### Author:  [@Peter48](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Peter48)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/9 "2020-09-17T09:24:18Z")
Relocating the hive isn’t the answer, but I would bet the neighbors would be pleased to see them gone.
I’m a lot more often than not against blaming the queen but I wondering if she has bad temperament genetics or she mated with an ill tempered drone.
In your situation I would buy in an Italian queen and when you get her then terminate the present queen and 24 hours later introduce the new queen to the hive.
Could the queen not be the original but a queen that mated about 4 weeks ago so her off spring from the get-go have been aggressive and the hive has built up with more of her off-spring to become a real issue. It is bad enough as a bee keeper to have an overly ‘hot’ hive so considering your neighbors I would make a move soon. My thinking is that relocating the hive is not an option, chances are you are going to only move the problem to somewhere else.
Let us know what you decide to do and if it works.
Cheers
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### Author:  [@JoeJac](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JoeJac)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/10 "2020-09-17T09:37:20Z")
Thanks for the advice, I will think about getting a new queen but am concerned that the current hive may be too dangerous for my neighbors.
Thanks again
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### Author:  [@Peter48](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Peter48)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2020, 10:18am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/11 "2020-09-17T10:18:33Z")
I suggested requeening so that if it is a genetic issue a new queen will hopefully produce a calmer bee, but that will take time for the present bees to die out. But what other option do you have? other than to terminate the complete colony. That is a hard decision to make…
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### Author:  [@JimM](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JimM)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/12 "2020-09-19T06:38:34Z")
Sometimes the phermones from a new queen will calm them almost instantly, without waiting for the bee population to renew itself. If you can find no other factor, its the best option in your circumstances.
Is your queen marked? (just to rule out that the bees superceded her by a more aggressive replacement) And egglaying and brood is as always?
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### Author:  [@JoeJac](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JoeJac)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/13 "2020-09-19T11:01:06Z")
Thank you for the advice as a newcomer to beekeeping, it is reassuring to have advice provided so quickly and clearly.
Unfortunately I think time is against me and at least two neighbours have complained so I will either move the hive to a safer spot or terminate.
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### Author:  [@Peter48](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Peter48)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/aggressive-bees-attacking-anything-within-20-metres-of-hive/27549/14 "2020-09-19T11:22:17Z")
Friendly neighbors are are better than angry bees, I think you know what needs to be done before the local council gets involved. 🥴 Do the right thing and the neighbors might might relent in time for you to have another hive.
Cheers Joe,