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Is that any cooking spray, Jeff?


Hiya @Olie02 - check out the wealth of threads about ants and how to control them by typing ants or ant trap in the search bar :wink:


Hi Robert, we use canola cooking spray. I don’t know if it works with other types. We use it in the kitchen whenever ants are a problem there. I used it on my observation hive when ants got bad, it worked a treat & didn’t affect the bees. I didn’t spray it in or at the entrance.

Another tip for the kitchen, mainly in cupboards is ants wont walk of talcum powder.


Fantastic. Thanks, definitely easier than reapplying neverwet with bees in the hive.

Will see how the antcant holds up with weather hitting it, but it’s hard to get a hold of in Oz, so cooking spray will be on the backup list.

PS - AntCant is fantastic! But washes off in rain quite easily it seems


It shouldn’t. It only gets removed by wiping, or by dirt sticking to it over 12 months+. I will see if I can get some input here from the manufacturer… :blush:


Thanks Dawn. That’s what I thought. Perhaps I applied it incorrectly. Will wipe and reapply and see how I go.


I went out early this morning as it has been so hot the last week in Adelaide, to see how my hive is doing. All merrily buzzing away in and out. But then I noticed a couple of ant superhighways into the hive up the legs. The ants can get bad around here but I keep them out of the house using need oil wiped around entrances. I used your cooking oil idea Jeff, and sprayed avocado oil from my hand pump I use for cooking.
I wondered if it would be harmful to wipe the need oil around the base of the feet? The bees wouldn’t be in contact. I read it’s not harmful to bees but can kill larvae. But larvae are not likely to come in contact with it?
I will keep an eye on the legs and see how the avo oil lasts and maybe get some grease if it seems effective.


Well done Helen. You’re correct, the larvae wont be in contact with it. All you need is a little spray with the cooking spray to break the “ant super highways”.


Thanks Jeff, that should have read Neem oil not need. I’ll see how the avo oil works before I resort to neem. I thought ants were my biggest headache today…


There are some nice photos and research done by Brad here on the neverwet product:

You will also find some nice ant moats here:


Hi Helen, I figured you were talking about neem oil. Don’t let the ants bother you too much. I never worry about them, except one time they nested under the removable panels of my observation hive.


I use little borax-laced sugar traps that bees can’t get into, set against the base of the hives where the ants have an ‘on-ramp’ :slight_smile: They don’t bother me or the bees much, until I pulled out the coreflute slider and thousands of ant eggs showered down from inside the channels :nauseated_face: and then there was the time they managed to set up an egg shop around the Flow frame openings - that kept me busy for the afternoon :unamused:


Hello this is Critter Technology the manufacturer of AntCant. One of your Flow Hive Forum members reached out to us and asked us to join in the discussion. Specifically, the stability of AntCant to exposure to water. Water will not harm AntCant. If the water is a forceful stream, for example, from a sprayed hose or directed sprinkler, than the force can act like an abrasive material and cause the AntCant to essentially rub off. But, simple falling rain should have no such effect. We also recommend to use
the tape provided and apply AntCant to that surface as we know that AntCant adheres to the tape and that ants can’t climb on the AntCant treated tape when it is at a greater than 30 degree angle or upside down. Hope this is helpfull.


Hi there Robert @Ropate,

AntCant @AntCant kindly joined the forum and replied on another thread:

So the answer to your comment is that it should not wash off in normal rain. Heavy squalls may be a totally different question! :smile: They suggest using their tape, which is just an adhesive aluminum tape, readily available in most DIY places.


thanks @Dawn_SD - after wiping and reapplying, it seems to have worked. That and the bees appears to have stopped the little nest that had started in a corner of the brood box.


@AntCant when will AntCant be available for sale in Australia?


@ropate - at this time sales of AntCant are limited to the United States mainland as shipping charges for small number of bottles is too expensive. As a next step, we hope to offer AntCant in Canada and Mexico, and then expand more broadly. Is ant infestation of beehives a significant problem in Australia?


Hi David,

If you use the forum search tool at the upper right (magnifying glass), you can get an idea of who has a problem with ants, and where they are located. For example, in the top 10 hits of a search for ants, more than 4 were in Australia:



Ants are the biggest insect problem, certainly in my apiary, but am sure it is an issue for all the bee keepers in Australia. Maybe it is worth looking into having an agent/distributor here. Air freight from the U.S. is the biggest problem holding sales back from businesses there.


Exactly. Although, finding an American supplier to ship to Australia was impossible. Thankfully my family visits often enough to bring me supplies.