# Are these hives on ebay Honey Flow hives? **URL:** \ **Category:** Flow Hive\ **Created:** [April 4, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187 "2016-04-04T20:40:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tom\_Cav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@Tom\_Cav](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Tom_Cav)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/1 "2016-04-04T20:40:15Z")
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/162025872317](http://www.ebay.com/itm/162025872317) Or is it some knockoff? ---
**Author:** ![adagna](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/adagna/32/31728_2.png) [@adagna](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/adagna)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/2 "2016-04-04T20:44:32Z")
“Techno Frames” are the chinese knock off that have been popping up on the market as fast as they can get shut down ---
**Author:** ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/3 "2016-04-04T20:47:10Z")
The roof certainly looks non genuine with that finger jointed wood. ---
**Author:** ![Schnucki](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/schnucki/32/2034_2.png) [@Schnucki](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Schnucki)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/4 "2016-04-04T21:17:30Z")
These are all fake replicas. I have reported all their listed items to ebayso they should be removed in time. BUYER BEWARE ---
**Author:** ![Rmcpb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/rmcpb/32/3147_2.png) [@Rmcpb](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Rmcpb)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/5 "2016-04-04T21:41:58Z")
That is a very expensive hive! ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_Waters](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/philip_waters/32/8651_2.png) [@Philip\_Waters](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Philip_Waters)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/6 "2016-04-04T23:45:55Z")
i noticed someone brought it ☹ Cant tell how to contact that buyer and inform them its fake ---
**Author:** ![adagna](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/adagna/32/31728_2.png) [@adagna](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/adagna)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/7 "2016-04-04T23:49:01Z")
That will be a matter for Pay Pal. Luckily they have great buyer protections ---
**Author:** ![Philip\_Waters](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/philip_waters/32/8651_2.png) [@Philip\_Waters](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Philip_Waters)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/8 "2016-04-04T23:50:17Z")
Does Pay Pal know theyre fake? how will they know? ---
**Author:** ![Schnucki](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/schnucki/32/2034_2.png) [@Schnucki](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Schnucki)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/9 "2016-04-04T23:51:58Z")
No, looks like it’s still online. Ebay take some days if not longer to remove the listing once it is reported (which I have done). You can see over time that they keep popping up and each time it is with a different seller. You can see that this seller is always a virgin with NO feedback ratings etc. On this forum I have previously heard of a purchaser having problems with the fake copy and had absolutely no backup from Chinese seller, unlike the great backup that seems to be evident with the Flow Team. ---
**Author:** ![adagna](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/adagna/32/31728_2.png) [@adagna](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/adagna)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/10 "2016-04-04T23:51:59Z")
The buyer would have to start a dispute but yes, it would be pretty clear when they investigate that they are fake and would absolutely refund the buyers money. But the buyer would have to initiate that. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Choate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/bruce_choate/32/7986_2.png) [@Bruce\_Choate](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Bruce_Choate)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/11 "2016-04-05T00:04:21Z")
I’d say if you can afford to, purchase one, then when it arrives, notify eBay that it’s a counterfeit product. Then initiate the refund process, since it’s considered a counterfeit, you don’t have to return the product and just simply destroy it. You get your money back and the seller loses his product. ---
**Author:** ![sara](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/sara/32/696_2.png) [@sara](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/sara)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/12 "2016-04-05T01:22:16Z")
Bruce, we used that technique to run them off of Amazon ; -) ---
**Author:** ![lhengst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/lhengst/32/2388_2.png) [@lhengst](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/lhengst)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/13 "2016-04-05T17:51:13Z")
For $75,000, to the Chinese mob, these imposters can be taken care of permanently. j/k ---
**Author:** ![adagna](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/adagna/32/31728_2.png) [@adagna](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/adagna)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/14 "2016-04-05T17:53:24Z")
Except they are probably behind the fakes… ---
**Author:** ![lhengst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/lhengst/32/2388_2.png) [@lhengst](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/lhengst)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/15 "2016-04-05T17:59:50Z")
> [@adagna](#): > > Except they are probably behind the fakes… It is a great scam. Make the fakes, make money off of the fakes, make more money when people pay you to make the fakes go away. ---
**Author:** ![Faroe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/faroe/32/11835_2.png) [@Faroe](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Faroe)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/16 "2016-04-05T23:46:53Z")
The only place to buy genuine Flow Hives is [www.honeyflow.com](http://www.honeyflow.com) or in Australia [www.honeyflow.com.au](http://www.honeyflow.com.au) It has taken a decade to perfect our design, which containing refinements the fakes cannot hope to replicate, and protected by patents. If you buy off ebay, etc., there is no warranty from us, etc. I will forward this onto our legal team. Thanks for letting us know 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Choate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/bruce_choate/32/7986_2.png) [@Bruce\_Choate](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Bruce_Choate)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/17 "2016-04-07T15:27:06Z")
Looks like there is a huge jump in the number of sellers posting them on eBay and the one’s reported so far are still up. Wonder why eBay hasn’t removed them yet… ---
**Author:** ![Faroe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/faroe/32/11835_2.png) [@Faroe](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Faroe)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/18 "2019-01-18T03:48:44Z")
An update: > [@Official Flow Hives for sale on Amazon and eBay + authorized resellers](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/official-flow-hives-for-sale-on-amazon-and-ebay-authorized-resellers/20688): > > honeybee Flow Hives, Flow Frames and other official Flow products are now available for sale through Amazon in the USA and Australia as well as eBay in Australia for those interested in purchasing through these online stores. Be careful, as there are still a lot of fake Flow products being sold on these sites, but if you follow the links below you will be taken to the official Flow sites. Official Australian Amazon site: [https://www.amazon.com.au/s?marketplaceID=A39IBJ37TRP1C6&me=AJ6D344W0…](https://www.amazon.com.au/s?marketplaceID=A39IBJ37TRP1C6&me=AJ6D344W0MJJZ&merchant=AJ6D344W0MJJZ) ---
**Author:** ![Faroe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/faroe/32/11835_2.png) [@Faroe](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Faroe)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/are-these-hives-on-ebay-honey-flow-hives/6187/19 "2019-01-18T05:18:25Z")