# Brood in the supa **URL:** \ **Category:** Beekeeping - Basics\ **Created:** [October 19, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/brood-in-the-supa/16617 "2018-10-19T01:55:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/brood-in-the-supa/16617/21 "2018-10-24T15:51:31Z")
> [@Thebusybeekeeper](#): > > I have been able to source a new queen from the beekeeper who gave me my original nuc, so I am going ahead with that arrangement. Before you introduce her, I would strongly suggest that you introduce a frame of brood from your other hive, if they can spare it. Wait a week before thinking of putting a queen in. The reason is that the workers in queenless hives with laying workers will treat an introduced queen as if they are queen-right. In other words, it is very likely that they will reject and kill her. If you can put a frame of brood into the hive once per week for a couple of weeks, you will help suppress the laying workers and make it much more likely that the hive will accept the queen. Plus the donated frames will help to boost the bee numbers in the queenless hive. The best frames of brood to use are those with a mixture of capped and uncapped brood. The pheromones from the uncapped worker brood help suppress the laying workers. The capped brood means that you will soon have newly emerged nurse bees to care for the new queen. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Thebusybeekeeper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/thebusybeekeeper/32/9281_2.png) [@Thebusybeekeeper](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Thebusybeekeeper)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/brood-in-the-supa/16617/22 "2018-10-25T02:22:18Z")
Thanks for your advise, always greatly appreciated. Will see how we go in next few weeks, when sorted will get back and let you all know. - @Peter48 . Cheers Jude. ---
**Author:** ![FrankD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b2d939/32.png) [@FrankD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/FrankD)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/brood-in-the-supa/16617/23 "2018-10-26T05:04:37Z")
The advice from Dawn is quite good and worthwhile following, however if you are intending to direct re-queen in the next week and you already have the queen, this will mean that your queen will be in the cage for too long. You would be better off setting up a nuc with the new queen, and then newspaper join this to your hive which will also have new bees from the emerging brood you have been adding. It is worth noting that if the bees have been queenless for a long time and have an established laying worker then introducing a new queen has limited success, because the gyne is putting out her own scent which the bees acknowledge as their own queen. One method that is supposed to work is to shake all the bees from the hive about 10 metres or so away. The laying worker will be overweight and unable to fly, while the other workers will fly back to the hive leaving her behind. Then introducing the new queen is more likely to be successful. I hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![Thebusybeekeeper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/thebusybeekeeper/32/9281_2.png) [@Thebusybeekeeper](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Thebusybeekeeper)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/brood-in-the-supa/16617/24 "2018-10-27T21:48:51Z")
Thanks @FrankD, that is great advise. Unfortunately had already inserted the queen in her cage , in the hive by the time I had heard from you and @Dawn_SD , as I could not keep her out of the hive any longer ( on the advise from the Queen supplier) so not holding out with too much hope of success, after reading both your posts. If I fail this time I will certainly take on yours and Dawns advise before I try again. Thanks again guys. Cheers Jude. [Previous page](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/brood-in-the-supa/16617.md?page=1)