# Foundationless Frames Fail

**URL:** <https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/foundationless-frames-fail/37505>\
**Category:** Beekeeping - Basics\
**Created:** [August 29, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/foundationless-frames-fail/37505 "2024-08-29T02:38:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/foundationless-frames-fail/37505/1 "2024-08-29T02:38:11Z")

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I got into a brood box today, and found these foundationless frames I put in 2 years ago. I knew that I shouldn’t have. Anyway here’s the results.

 ![IMG_20240829_123147050~2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/b/1/b1ab8da5536190a1dc74319db392e5fe1ce14cc4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Scolarious](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/scolarious/32/29683_2.png) [@Scolarious](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Scolarious)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/foundationless-frames-fail/37505/2 "2024-08-29T03:14:00Z")

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Quite interesting how the cell size changes throughout the depth of the frame. Foundationless certianly has its draw backs.

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**Author:** ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/foundationless-frames-fail/37505/3 "2024-08-29T03:25:20Z")

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These frames were the outside frames of a 9 frame brood box. The rest of the frames were reasonably good, 3 of which were foundationless frames. The colony was preparing to swarm. Hopefully I’ve prevented that from happening
