# G'day - Fred from Perth **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions\ **Created:** [October 16, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/gday-fred-from-perth/23461 "2019-10-16T09:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 272
**Author:** ![fffffred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@fffffred](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/fffffred)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/gday-fred-from-perth/23461/272 "2020-10-31T11:55:41Z")
Cheers @skeggley - maybe I should have borrowed some from you… I was up in Darlington today helping transfer a nuc for a new flowhive owner. I then went and bought some new frames and borrowed another nuc box from @Steve61😄 Thanks mate. Last night I coaxed the bees into some cardboard boxes I had lying around. Must have captured the queen, as by morning bees flying out of the boxes and whatever left over swarm on the tree branch were gone as well. I threw in some old comb to entice them to stay. There is 2 swarms by the way. 1 the size of a ice cream container whilst the main one is the size of soccer ball. My thinking that these are secondary and tertiary swarms - as I’d moved the queen into the nuc (this is the one I brought to Darlington today - sighted the queen) - am I correct in thinking this would have been the primary swarm? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/d/9/d9469735d9021743645c81f6a20b3d36b9017da1.jpeg) I inspected the hive that issued the swarm. They were cranky as and I copped 2 stings on my finger and wrist 😪 I found a capped queen cell on the second frame, by the third frame I realised the hive was too hot to handle, so I closed them up. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/1/b/1bef34ede58ce86549ce559781a134f9e539b0fd.jpeg) I inspected my second hive. They were bursting at the seem and a lot nicer to handle. I took 2 frames of open brood as enticements for the swarms to stay. I put the brood frame in the middle flanked by fresh foundation frame and foundationless frames on the outside (my thinking is if they are in building mode, let them build). I brought the nuc boxes over to the neighbours place and shook the cardboard boxes into the nuc. I spotted the queen in the larger swarm and she made her way into the frames. I dumped the remaining bees at the entrance and watched them march into the box. It was amazing to watch. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/a/6/a62b74afe8847104d55754996df076f592173a65.jpeg) I performed similar routine with the smaller swarm - however, was not able to spot the queen. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/f/c/fce81537d8c7f4135b1f07ec9581b4e6d62af9dd.jpeg) Question - should I move the nucs back to my apiary tonight? My thinking after reading this thread with responses from @JimM is that the bees and queen haven’t orientated to the new hive yet and if the queen hasn’t gone on a mating flight - I should do this rather than later other. > [@Help needed with swarm!](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/help-needed-with-swarm/28175/17): > > I would leave well enough alone and allow then to settle and establish themselves. Bees in swarm mode can build large amounts of comb very quickly. Its fortunate that they have built on the frames. I would leave them alone for two or three weeks and have another look then. If its a prime swarm you should have plenty of capped brood then and if its a secondary the virgin should hopefully have been mated and have started laying. I would leave the ventilation as it is for now. The bees chose it… --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/gday-fred-from-perth/23461)._