# Have I still got a queen?

**URL:** https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905
**Category:** Beekeeping - Basics
**Created:** [February 1, 2016, 9:42am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905 "2016-02-01T09:42:52Z")
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### Author: ![Debra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/debra/32/2218_2.png) [@Debra](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Debra)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 9:42am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/1 "2016-02-01T09:42:52Z")

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Hello Everyone,

VERY new beekeeper here.

My Bees arrived in a nuc, and after five days I transferred them successfully into the Flow Hive.

The blue dotted queen was there on the day we transferred, 27/12/15. but since then, I have not been able to see her.

I’m hoping you learned folk can tell me if all is going well with my hive.

Here are photos of some of the frames, and the last photo is a side by side comparison of the same frame 25 days apart.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/b/b0b65b3d621994257013cfe0bd3e7a66bb574dcf.png)

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/d/d303860bc77c68716b6a78aa6f22037754e5ef13.png)

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/c/cce7ab8814dcd19aafa8c8de109bfc4b355f65dc.png)

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/c/ca1e10bb7aef10a0dd9e574c7ae972fedd209ddc.png)

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/a/a9db19cef665081884b83ec0a7dce0f2ca508eb6.png)

Thank you.

Cheers

Debra

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### Author: ![Valli](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/valli/32/159_2.png) [@Valli](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Valli)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 10:19am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/2 "2016-02-01T10:19:02Z")

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Queens are very good at hiding.

She will be there if you have eggs  
If you are worried (I must admit I do with mine) go back and look tomorrow, take your time and don’t pannic

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### Author: ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/3 "2016-02-01T11:06:50Z")

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If you spotted eggs then she was there three days ago so no real reason to suspect she is not still there. If you saw eggs then don’t worry about looking in till next inspection is due.  
If you HAVE lost your queen then you would have seen queen cells andI couldn’t see any. I had a good look for eggs but it’s difficult with the magnification and the dark comb  
Rather than taking a picture of the whole frame concentrate on a close up of the areas where brood has emerged and the queen will be re-laying.

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### Author: ![Debra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/debra/32/2218_2.png) [@Debra](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Debra)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/4 "2016-02-01T11:48:15Z")

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Hi Valli,  
Yes, I’ll have to have a good look for some eggs…  
I think I’ll need my specs !

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### Author: ![Debra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/debra/32/2218_2.png) [@Debra](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Debra)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 11:57am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/5 "2016-02-01T11:57:35Z")

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Hi Dee,

Thanks for the great idea on taking a close up photo.  
I’ll do that with the next inspection.  
Maybe then I’ll see some eggs, that will be reassuring.

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### Author: ![adagna](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/adagna/32/31728_2.png) [@adagna](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/adagna)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/6 "2016-02-01T18:23:39Z")

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I can see that you have larvae in there, so like you say she was there at a minimum until recently. You need to look for eggs as has been suggested above. I have been told by beekeepers in my local club that the queen will often hide in areas off of the frames when the hive gets cracked open. One gentleman uses slatted bottom boards and said he could never find her until one day he went all the way down below the slatted board and found her hiding underneath it. She could very well still be in there just keeping out of sight while you are doing inspections.

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### Author: ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/7 "2016-02-01T18:46:24Z")

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Some folk have trouble finding eggs but it is an absolutely necessary skill. If you have trouble then invest in a bright white LED pen torch to shine into the cells.

I never bother looking for the queen unless I NEED to find her…making splits or re-queening.  
See eggs and relax. Don’t get hung up about finding the queen.

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### Author: ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/8 "2016-02-01T19:58:47Z")

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Wow @Dee, that’s a great tip. I’m going to invest in one of those. Most times I need sunshine & the times I like to work my bees, that’s hard to find. I could have used one of those yesterday afternoon.

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### Author: ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/9 "2016-02-01T20:53:58Z")

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Yip Dee,

Love the new generation LED flashlights/torches. I use they all the time working on heating equipment so my old eyes function best. I know I will be using mine n a magnifier all the time to check. I lost one of my eye retinas so after surgery my vision is less quality

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/8/86fcf99bc170d57732c466f254aed1a49a0b4ac9.jpg)

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### Author: ![Anon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@Anon](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Anon)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/10 "2016-02-02T22:55:49Z")

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I’ll make an educated guess. Picture 3 at the top-bar just left of center there is a circle of worker bees tending to a bee under and in the middle of their circle. Many times workers make a circle around the queen and they are all facing her.

or

If the paint on her back is light blue in picture 4 on the right hand side 3" from the side bar in the center I see a blue spec under some bees.

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/a/a08a09786f6045560c4acaabfc2cca44b5c240ff.png)

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/8/8c4ac07a720626f5a2da7dd284ea9d67d2622f38.png)

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### Author: ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/11 "2016-02-02T23:56:07Z")

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There’s another group of bees on the right hand side of that frame at the top. That looks to me like there might be some comb that broke away when the frame came out & the bees are cleaning up the honey that became exposed.

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### Author: ![Debra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/debra/32/2218_2.png) [@Debra](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Debra)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/12 "2016-02-03T01:18:33Z")

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Hi adagna,

Yep, honing my “looking for eggs” skill, is on my to do list, thanks for spotting some larvae.  
Cheers 🙂

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### Author: ![Debra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/debra/32/2218_2.png) [@Debra](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Debra)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/13 "2016-02-03T01:19:59Z")

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Thanks Dee,

I have one of these torches, great idea!

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### Author: ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/14 "2016-02-03T01:28:32Z")

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Wonder if a Welch Allyn otoscope would work… 👿😷

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### Author: ![Debra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/debra/32/2218_2.png) [@Debra](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Debra)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/15 "2016-02-03T01:29:15Z")

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Hi RHC,

Wow, I’m amazed at how you could ‘read’ the frames.  
That’s experience and knowledge right there!  
Thank you for your insights.😌

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### Author: ![Debra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/debra/32/2218_2.png) [@Debra](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Debra)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/16 "2016-02-03T01:33:14Z")

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Hi JeffH,

Yes, you are right, some of the comb did break away when I separated the frames.  
Some of the bees were ‘holding hands’ as I gently separated the frames, before lifting them up to inspect.

🐝😀

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### Author: ![Debra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/debra/32/2218_2.png) [@Debra](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Debra)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/17 "2016-02-03T01:36:35Z")

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Ha! Had to go look up what that was…  
I reckon it would work perfectly !  
Could be a whole new market for used otiscopes.  
😉🐝🐝🐝

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### Author: ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 8:15am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/18 "2016-02-03T08:15:05Z")

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Now I would find that really difficult to put to my eye with a fencing veil on

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### Author: ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/19 "2016-02-03T16:52:01Z")

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Well, I envisioned just using it as a light source, seeing that it is so bright. I bet you could get it close enough to your eye to use the magnifying lens too, but would it be worth risking a nose sting to do that?

😖

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### Author: ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/have-i-still-got-a-queen/4905/20 "2016-02-03T16:55:34Z")

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By the way @Dee, did you draw your own avatar? I really like it.

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