# How can I harvest frames that are not totally full?

**URL:** <https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141>\
**Category:** Beekeeping - Basics\
**Created:** [August 8, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141 "2016-08-08T20:05:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rodderick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/rodderick/32/15174_2.png) [@Rodderick](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Rodderick)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/21 "2016-08-24T04:53:32Z")

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What are you eating there Jerry? I can make out potatoes with dirt and broccoli… but the rest has me completely stumped! … 😵

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**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/22 "2016-08-24T04:58:22Z")

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> [@Rodderick](#):
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> I can make out potatoes with dirt

ROFL!!! 😂 You don’t have black pepper in Aus?

The protein looks like pork or chicken, if I had to guess, I would say pork. The sauce looks laden with butter - bring it on! 😄

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**Author:** ![Rodderick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/rodderick/32/15174_2.png) [@Rodderick](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Rodderick)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/23 "2016-08-24T05:02:30Z")

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Whoa! … that is some serious pepper… our potatoes are mashed with a slurp of milk and a pinch of salt… and to get adventurous, a clove of crushed garlic. Meat will be a BBQed steak or sausage with tomato sauce. Just simpledons over here…

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**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/24 "2016-08-24T05:07:38Z")

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> [@Rodderick](#):
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> that is some serious pepper

There may be some other ground spices in there, like cumin or coriander. Jerry is a master of asian culture. 😉

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 5:57am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/25 "2016-08-24T05:57:51Z")

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Dawn n Rod,

The “Dirt” 😄 actually is fresh chopped garden sage, rosemary, oragano, thyme blended with pepper n a cut/reduced Asian fish sauce ( blend of fish sauce {nuoc mam}, chillies, crushed garlic, ginger n honey n a dab of H2o ))…

I scrape the herbal organic matter into the juices, add some lemon/pepper with heavy cream n corn starch (thickener) to make a spicy but creamy gravy. 😛😘🕶

And that’s the dirt in this cooking adventure.

Nitie nite folks from the states.  
Gerald

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**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/26 "2016-08-24T06:00:38Z")

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> [@Gerald\_Nickel](#):
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> blended with pepper n a cut/reduced Asian fish sauce

hmm, but the stuff on the potatoes looks pretty dry - too dry for fish sauce! 😉

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 6:03am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/27 "2016-08-24T06:03:49Z")

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😀. Give time to find the freshes dill weed. My hens enjoy mine emensly ! Nitie nite 💤💤💤. Jerry

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/28 "2016-08-24T06:06:39Z")

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That’s a mix of herbs on the Spuds ! I’m not suppose to add salt … Not that I totally listen but have learn to enjoy the natural salts in foods more. Usually butter has enough because I don’t buy unsalted butter !

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**Author:** ![Rodderick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/rodderick/32/15174_2.png) [@Rodderick](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Rodderick)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 7:50am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/29 "2016-08-24T07:50:35Z")

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Now I know what it is, it sounds delicious… hope it went down a treat.

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**Author:** ![Sallywags](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/sallywags/32/6561_2.png) [@Sallywags](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Sallywags)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 8:02am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/30 "2016-08-24T08:02:40Z")

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This sounds a bit like FODMAPS rather than IBS…

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/31 "2016-08-24T15:18:43Z")

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Dawn,

Thankz for explaining-that 8 way Bee Escape ! Now I have a clean brain-wave n pix’s up in my Gray-matter ! 🕶. We sure did get off on a different “tack” 😉👍…  
 ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/7/7296f0b3c3a4647c0c7bd3377ef65f8fe03958cc.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/0/0b1fb7a6f473b40ba6bf3f76a68523a034486818.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/5/5fd033bb2b43ce85a88d9ab038a6f8aa09306458.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/2/2ad9ad66276e2f71c877cfa0b2e84c8632e2e56c.jpg). Topping off two of my weaker/smaller colonies with 1:1 before we have to get serious with the 2:1 mix up here if needed.

Have a great n ☀ Humpday !  
Jerry

![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/e/ecda87b267606059283f0ae22ebc744cdaf971ed.jpg) Bought this bouquet at one of our local Farmers Markets yesterday … They had a class on seed collection. ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/f/fd1359c2703ed2e084b79f36efd4c1669d7af44e.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/5/58c096f8751c83125f5720e09d804858002762a6.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/3/307b9fac3f7876b45ece6693b978b86da53da0f8.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/5/57fb4e203d47668110a298f59370a8c59bf30340.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/3/3eecc31d08343c4411607b98e3dfdf4a4f11faf1.jpg)  
I like to support our local small farmers at the markets when possible ! 🍇🍆🌾

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**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/32 "2016-08-24T16:45:33Z")

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> [@Sallywags](#):
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> FODMAPS rather than IBS

Low FODMAP diet is used for IBS - it was developed by Sue Shepherd at Monash University in Australia.

> **[IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME IBS | Shepherd Works](https://shepherdworks.com.au/disease-information/irritable-bowel-syndrome-ibs/)**
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> For some people, a change in the food they eat may help their IBS, whilst for others it will make no difference. Shepherd Works can help.

I have been using a low FODMAP diet for over a year, and it works pretty well. Fortunately I don’t have a problem with lactose or fructose, so I can eat yogurt and honey! 😊

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**Author:** ![Sallywags](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/sallywags/32/6561_2.png) [@Sallywags](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Sallywags)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/33 "2016-08-24T16:50:16Z")

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Good to know you know about it - a lot of people are just sent away with an ‘IBS’ diagnosis with no other info ref e.g. FODMAPS etc!

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**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/34 "2016-08-24T17:05:26Z")

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> [@Sallywags](#):
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> a lot of people are just sent away with an ‘IBS’ diagnosis

That happened to me too, I was very disappointed that the Gastroenterology team just lost interest once they had done all of the tests. So I did a lot of my own reading and came across Sue Shepherd’s work. It wouldn’t be going too far to say it has changed my life. I used to take about 50 loperamide per week, now I only need a couple. I had to stay in the house about 3 days per week, or make sure I was within 5 minutes of a loo - very difficult and embarrassing. Travel was a nightmare. Now everything is manageable, although eating out is often a challenge.

I can’t imagine being able to keep bees unless I had found this diet. Now I can spend 2 hours inside a bee suit several miles from the nearest loo without worrying! 😊

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**Author:** ![Sallywags](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/sallywags/32/6561_2.png) [@Sallywags](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Sallywags)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/35 "2016-08-24T18:34:50Z")

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Yep me too - once they discovered i wasn’t coeliac they weren’t interested. I don’t suffer with FODMAPS but have discovered i am intolerant to wheat, dairy and eggs, and am so much better without them!

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**Author:** ![Bobby\_Thanepohn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/bobby_thanepohn/32/2503_2.png) [@Bobby\_Thanepohn](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Bobby_Thanepohn)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/36 "2016-08-24T18:40:02Z")

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This topic certainly went off the rails…

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**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/37 "2016-08-24T18:40:57Z")

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> [@Bobby\_Thanepohn](#):
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> went off the rails

I specialize in that, but I did mention bees, honey or bee suits in just about every response! 😜

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**Author:** ![Sallywags](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/sallywags/32/6561_2.png) [@Sallywags](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Sallywags)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/38 "2016-08-24T19:49:23Z")

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Lol sorry!! will try not to thread-jack…

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**Author:** ![Viennabee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/439d5e/32.png) [@Viennabee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Viennabee)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/39 "2016-08-24T22:40:50Z")

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You are right !  
By the way l watched all your youtube videos before l joined this forum - really good ! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Viennabee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/439d5e/32.png) [@Viennabee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Viennabee)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/how-can-i-harvest-frames-that-are-not-totally-full/8141/40 "2016-08-24T23:09:17Z")

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It was amazing  
We looked at the flowframes several times  
About a month ago they ware partially capped ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/7/7f274eb7c45232d27b49c0647654ba8f2719e51b.jpeg)  
Then nothing changed, lately my impression was, that they were moving the honey down into the broodbox  
before harvesting there was capped honey but almost no nektar in the flowframes  
This is the same frame after harvesting ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/0/014fb6879204069d07908cc426139b2efcfc0343.jpeg)  
A month later - rather less then before  
Well my harvest was rather modest but the viskosity seems ok - anyway the risk of fermenting is very low because it will be eaten up before  
Conclusion: I am very happy it worked 😀😀😀

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