# Is it legally okay for me to sell my honey as "Flow Hive Honey"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Mmm Honey\ **Created:** [January 26, 2016, 6:12am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824 "2016-01-26T06:12:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chaiteabooks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@Chaiteabooks](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Chaiteabooks)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 6:12am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/1 "2016-01-26T06:12:25Z")
Hey Flow Team! Thanks for all the awesome work you’re doing despite the huge demand! My question is, if I were to sell my honey at markets and stalls etc. is it legally okay for me to label my honey as “Flow Hive Honey”? What about “Honey from a Flow Hive”? Are they both legally permitted to be advertised as such? xx Jess ---
**Author:** ![Chaiteabooks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@Chaiteabooks](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Chaiteabooks)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 6:16am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/2 "2016-01-26T06:16:17Z")
@Cedar @JedT @Jake What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 8:59am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/3 "2016-01-26T08:59:33Z")
You could always photograph your hive and have that as the label? ---
**Author:** ![Valli](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/valli/32/159_2.png) [@Valli](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Valli)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/4 "2016-01-26T10:56:46Z")
@Chaiteabooks I have asked this question but not yet had an answer. ---
**Author:** ![wessexmario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@wessexmario](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/wessexmario)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/5 "2016-01-26T18:01:52Z")
Which country are you in? … as the answer can be different depending on where you are, eg: in England you have to comply with the **Honey (England) Regulations 2015**: > **[uksi\_20151348\_en.pdf](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/1348/pdfs/uksi_20151348_en.pdf)** > > 89.64 KB ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/6 "2016-01-26T18:16:38Z")
Yes…I can see that in the UK you couldn’t label it Flow Hive Honey because there is no such category but you could say it was honey from a Flow Hive ---
**Author:** ![Faroe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/faroe/32/11835_2.png) [@Faroe](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Faroe)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/7 "2016-01-26T19:38:05Z")
@Valli it seems you have forgotten the answer that was already provided for you. Below is the answer from our legal team. > [@On another topic](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/3114/8): > > Hi, this is Simeon from the legal team at Honey Flow, > > Thanks for creating this thread and for asking about the use of our trademarks and logo. > > The logo and the word "Flow’ is trademark protected for all uses relating to beekeeping (eg Flow Honey, Flow Hives, Flow Frames etc) Unauthorised use is illegal. > > While you cannot call your honey “Flow Honey” or "Flow Hive Honey’ or anything similar, we are generally happy for you to mention on your label or in your marketing material that your bees live in Flow Hives, that this allows honey to be extracted without opening the hives, and anything else you’d like to say about how healthy and happy that makes your bees! > > If you’d like to do that, please email us to ask our permission, and (with your permission) we can post it for fellow honey producers to use. > > Thanks again for asking, > > Simeon ---
**Author:** ![Valli](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/valli/32/159_2.png) [@Valli](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Valli)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/8 "2016-01-26T19:39:17Z")
@Faroe I emailed my label but got no reply ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/9 "2016-01-26T19:42:10Z")
> [@Faroe](#): > > we are generally happy for you to mention on your label or in your marketing material that your bees live in Flow Hives So…Honey from a Flow Hive. ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/10 "2016-01-26T20:01:50Z")
> [@Dee](#): > > Honey from a Flow Hive Bee, Thank you this is what I was hoping to say ---
**Author:** ![Chaiteabooks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@Chaiteabooks](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Chaiteabooks)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/11 "2016-01-27T08:31:40Z")
Thanks Faroe! Exactly what I wanted to know, much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Faroe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/faroe/32/11835_2.png) [@Faroe](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Faroe)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/12 "2016-01-27T17:53:00Z")
By the way the email address for asking for permission is [legal@honeyflow.com](mailto:legal@honeyflow.com) ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/13 "2016-01-27T18:14:20Z")
Faroe, If I want to put a picture of my flow hive on the label I have to get permission? ---
**Author:** ![Faroe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/faroe/32/11835_2.png) [@Faroe](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Faroe)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/14 "2016-01-27T18:25:39Z")
I have no idea. I will have to ask legal. @simeon1 ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/15 "2016-01-27T18:27:19Z")
I know it was a hypothetical question, Dee, but does this mean you are getting one??? 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/16 "2016-01-27T18:43:34Z")
That’s no problem. I’ll ask them…I just thought you might know…sorry > [@Dawn\_SD](#): > > I know it was a hypothetical question, Dee, but does this mean you are getting one??? My daughter used to live in a “trendy” part of london. She used to frequent a “trendy” Deli. The owner read about the Flow Hive early last year, joined the scrum and has a complete hive on order (not delivered yet). His plan was to situate the bees on his Deli roof and sell the honey in the shop.In conversation with her he discovered I was a beekeeper. He seemed to discover, to his utter dismay, almost simultaneously, that there was more to getting honey from a flow hive than turning taps. I offered to take it off his hands and in exchange for some honey for a couple of years I negotiated a very good price. Hence my interest in labelling it as honey from a Flow Hive. It would make no difference to my customers but to London Chattering Classes it might. I have paid for it…so he better come up with the goods or I’ll send “The Boys” round ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/17 "2016-01-27T18:55:23Z")
Fabulous story! I am so happy that you are getting one too. 😄 Dawn ---
**Author:** ![Faroe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/faroe/32/11835_2.png) [@Faroe](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Faroe)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/18 "2016-01-27T22:58:44Z")
All good, no need to apologise 🙂 I just don’t know. I haven’t come across this question through email support, and only on this forum - so it’s all new. That’s why I thought it best to ask the guys who take care of all this suff 🙂 (the legal department) It will be interesting to see how the honey goes on top of the roof and in the shop. I’m sure the “fancy” customers will love it 😍 ---
**Author:** ![JedT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jedt/32/18179_2.png) [@JedT](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JedT)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/19 "2016-01-27T23:36:58Z")
Message from Cedar "Honey from a Flow Hive, or Harvested from a Flow Hive, should be fine. As long as it doesn’t look like we (Flow) are selling honey." So if you add this to Simeons letter about using Flow™ in the naming of the honey - then yes, you should be able to let customers know the honey was gathered from Flow hives on your label. ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 9:47am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824/20 "2016-01-28T09:47:39Z")
> [@Faroe](#): > > I’m sure the “fancy” customers will love it 😍 It’s amazing what people will pay Fortnum & Mason (posh department store in Piccadilly ) have equally posh hives on their roof ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/a/a617462cabc71d772b30f1f3e23b4b9d1ed7ac3e.jpg) They sell their own honey for £7.00 for an 8oz jar. Strangely their website says they have gentle Black Welsh bees…hmmmm but in an article elsewhere they have said they went out of their way to “select gentle Carniolan stock that wouldn’t sting the customers” I wonder how many customers they get on their rooftops 😉 [Next page](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-it-legally-okay-for-me-to-sell-my-honey-as-flow-hive-honey/4824.md?page=2)