# Is This Wax Moth? **URL:** \ **Category:** Beekeeping - Basics\ **Created:** [October 24, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121 "2020-10-24T04:49:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jojo20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@jojo20](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/jojo20)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/1 "2020-10-24T04:49:21Z")
Hi all hoping everyone is keeping well. This is a bit of an update on my last post and a potential new issue. In July the hive was not doing to well (low numbers of bees) I removed the flow super and began feeding, all was going well numbers have vastly increase. Today was the day I was going to place on the super again. However when I removed it from the container I had stored it in I found some grubs and maybe eggs only on one frame, is this wax moth ? What do do next ? Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers Dave. ![71ED02AA-7AAD-4369-BA0D-C4F794A03059_1_201_a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/2/6/2610118dc9066816d3f0b1cddf4342f33e6499f3.jpeg) ![7F40E349-7C20-4F62-A042-3A1767716486_1_201_a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/a/0/a01010d4a125caf517fc9152d72a4c81039c8b16.jpeg) ![3DEDEB02-388D-42E6-A9A0-1A00D42E0534_1_201_a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/5/8/58af1c8822398548250d7785028f71e597496ed1.jpeg) ![F8F27B8D-7102-4752-8FD2-69A1AE1B8E16_1_201_a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/1/d/1d9460524e54d28d7306b0e3e2e5c6e2306e81f9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SnowflakeHoney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/snowflakehoney/32/7036_2.png) [@SnowflakeHoney](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/SnowflakeHoney)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 11:34am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/2 "2020-10-24T11:34:03Z")
Yep. Wax moth. Just brush of the silk and rinse out the frame to get rid of the excrement. Leave them out of direct sunlight and give them a day or two to dry out and then use them as normal. Don’t use hot water. Use warm water at best. This is one of the worst issues we’ll actually face in our neck of the woods. We should be grateful. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_Purdie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/tim_purdie/32/22447_2.png) [@Tim\_Purdie](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Tim_Purdie)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/3 "2020-10-24T14:00:06Z")
don’t leave flow frames in direct sunlight- the UV breaks down the plastic. ---
**Author:** ![jojo20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@jojo20](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/jojo20)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/4 "2020-10-25T04:10:47Z")
Thanks Guys, Ended up freezing the frames overnight and giving a good ![F980092D-4356-4A99-BE5B-1BD0B5787764_1_201_a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/1/a/1a468a17d8da9f596784dc4814e475c9247fc960.jpeg) wash off and dry. I immersed the box in a tub of water and vinegar for a couple of hours and allowed to dry overnight. Just placed the super back on, the brood box was heaving with bees. Already bees have moved into the super, let the fun begin. 😄 Cheers Dave ---
**Author:** ![SnowflakeHoney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/snowflakehoney/32/7036_2.png) [@SnowflakeHoney](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/SnowflakeHoney)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 5:52am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/5 "2020-10-25T05:52:59Z")
You might like this link for future reference: > **[Wax moth a beekeeping pest | Priority pest insects and mites | Pest insects...](https://agriculture.vic.gov.au/biosecurity/pest-insects-and-mites/priority-pest-insects-and-mites/wax-moth-a-beekeeping-pest#h2-5)** _Freezing_ All life-cycle stages of the wax moth, including eggs, are killed by freezing at the following temperatures and time-lenghs: −6.7C at 4.5 hours −12.2C at 3 hours −15.0C at 2 hours. _It is important to commence timing of this treatment only when the hive material or apiary products have reached the recommended temperature_. A number of hobby beekeepers have purchased small freezers and find freezing an excellent means of protecting their combs. After freezing, the combs should be stored in a moth-proof environment to prevent re-infestation. Sealed, strong plastic garbage bags provide a good insect-proof storage environment. Combs that have been frozen and then placed in untreated supers for storage are immediately at risk to infestation because the supers may contain wax moth eggs. It is best to treat the super and combs and then place them together in a sealed plastic bag. Cold rooms The use of cool rooms to store combs and protect them from wax moths has become increasingly popular in the beekeeping industry. A temperature of 4°C will restrict wax moth activity. ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Flemming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/robert_flemming/32/24057_2.png) [@Robert\_Flemming](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Robert_Flemming)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/6 "2021-01-25T03:54:51Z")
![Flow Hive Tray 23 Jan](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/a/2/a23c78f074df956d0003d100f15210d5948c385d.jpeg) I am a newbie and this is the Tray from my flow hive can someone give me their opinion as it looks like we have SHB and Moth activity ---
**Author:** ![SnowflakeHoney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/snowflakehoney/32/7036_2.png) [@SnowflakeHoney](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/SnowflakeHoney)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/7 "2021-02-07T13:14:11Z")
[https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/animals-and-livestock/bees/pests-diseases](https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/animals-and-livestock/bees/pests-diseases) Take a look at that page ---
**Author:** ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/8 "2021-02-07T20:11:12Z")
They look like wax moth larvae as well as dead hive beetles. Have you done a recent brood inspection? If so, how does everything look there? ---
**Author:** ![chau06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/chau06/32/25515_2.png) [@chau06](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/chau06)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/9 "2021-02-07T20:22:06Z")
Looks like there are spines and legs - I’d go in favor of SHB larvae, especially given the dead adults present but I can’t tell for sure from the photo - could be wax moth larvae instead or in addition. ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Flemming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/robert_flemming/32/24057_2.png) [@Robert\_Flemming](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Robert_Flemming)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/10 "2021-02-07T20:27:26Z")
Thanks, we will be doing another inspection this weekend ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/11 "2021-02-07T20:37:46Z")
> [@chau06](#): > > I’d go in favor of SHB larvae I am afraid that I agree with @JeffH - wax moth larvae and SHB adults. The red heads and sheer size of the larvae make them much more likely to be wax moth larvae. This is the sign of a possibly weak hive. Needs careful management with not expanding too quickly, maybe an extra frame of capped brood from another hive, if possible. ---
**Author:** ![chau06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/chau06/32/25515_2.png) [@chau06](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/chau06)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-this-wax-moth/28121/12 "2021-02-07T21:13:15Z")
> [@Dawn\_SD](#): > > sheer size of the larvae Maybe they’re just big boned! 😳