Is worth begin apiculture with flow hive?

Not my quote mate.
As has been mentioned bee keeping is not an easy get rich game. Commercial beekeeper so need hundreds of hives to make a buck and it’s a long term investment. Every year is different, some times it’s good some times it’s not. Inspections of colonys is a necessity, Flowhive or not. There is no magical easy way full stop. I hear what you are saying and thinking but is your grandfather a rich man from bees? Go see him and ask him the same questions you are asking here, if he is not around to ask, ask a local beekeeper and listen to what he says.
Read some beekeeping books then get 2 colonys and care for them and see how that goes.
A Flowhive is no different from a traditional hive. You will get no more honey from it than a traditional hive plastic frames or not.
I have spent over $2500 on beekeeping equipment in the last 2 years with 4 colonys and have harvested $45 worth of honey to date. I live in an area where there are no pests or diseases to worry about and in a good year plenty of food for the bees all year, unfortunately the last 2 years have not been good years. Fortunately I’m not in it for the money. I’m in it because it’s a fun and challenging hobby and would not even consider a commercial career in beekeeping. Too much hard work.
Once you speak to a local beekeeper and read a beekeeping book or three and you have questions by all means ask here were all ears but for crying out loud stop thinking keeping bees is easy it is not and once you keep bees you will understand.

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Don’t bother mate. ToQ is a troll trying to make us admit flow plastic is bad, or some such (if you check, he is trying to deliberately extract answers that compromise our integrity to flow in various ways). I do not believe he is a genuine forum member. He had plenty of our genuine people answering his questions, yet he keeps going over and over same same.
If we can’t have jape, we shouldn’t have to put up with ToQ.
Not sure who can rub him off. :smirk:

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Aah ol’ mate Jape, it’s funny you should mention him, I was thinking of him when reading earlier posts in this thread.
I do think that op is just gisguided though and compared with other BK forums this one is a lot more forgiving due to the fact that many of us are just newbeeks and the ones who aren’t are are pretty cool characters.
I’m still waiting for RHCP to pipe up for a laugh.
:slight_smile:

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i want hear that; it is good if your in region doesn’t exist disease,;
now what are you doing ? are you earn more? if yet not seem ?

what was reason of that ? only climate ?
which country are you living ? as i know mountain place is good for bees ? is that true ?
what terms do you have for your bees ?

really ? then it is good; i like challenge [quote=“skeggley, post:42, topic:10269”]
Once you speak to a local beekeeper and read a beekeeping book or three and you have questions
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here are a lot of beekeeper who hasn’t knowledge about bees ;

Good morning @ToQcHista.

Listen mate. Go to https://www.honeyflow.com buy yourself a couple of hives. Then get some bees. If you search this forum you will get plenty on installing bees in your new flow hives.

Then come back and show us your hive pictures and maybe you will have a better understanding and ask meaningful questions.

Currently you appear to be trolling (google it) so until you can show some faith with this forum I for one will not be answering any of your obscure questions.

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Yes, because we live in Indonesia, the places where varroa mites come from.

When peoples here, in this community talking something about flow, most of them talking based from he/she experience with flow. This community I believe, just like consumers based forum, where peoples talking based from the user perceptive. We will not force you to do exactly what we said, we just want to give you many perceptive from our beekeeping experiences. We are not encourage you “not to buy” nor “to buy” Flow Hive, instead we encourage you to learn more and realizing that beekeeping “might not” give you big money, without offense your grandfather, your family, or someone you know. Do you know according to some census, there are about 70-80% or new beekeepers that fail in their first year, why? mostly lack of beekeeping knowledge (including understand the reality of beekeeping). I understand your motivation, and for me there is nothing wrong with that, anybody will like to get new source of income, it’s part of human nature, but you must able to see reality clearly. Learning many things will make your life colorful.

Once I read a story about an ostrich, one day a lion run toward him to catch it, instead of fleeing, this ostrich just use his leg to make a hole in soil, big enough, then he put his head to it, and he say “oh well . . .now the lion is gone”, and then lion catch him. :slight_smile:

Some peoples in my country or even my friends, are interesting of keeping bees just like what I did, and what I said to them, is basically what I said to anyone here who say they want to start beekeeping. Some people agree but some doesn’t, citing that in the supermarket or honey shop, that put so much honey in the shelves. Do you know what I said to them? Don’t let that phenomena blind you guys, don’t just believe what you see! Do you know, that based on the census from Indonesia Beekeepers Association, in 2016 we only have 40.000 mellifera hives, that produces 14 kg/year/hives, it just about 560 ton, that’s explaining why Indonesia always importing honey maybe every year. This is what happen when some peoples seeing honey as money, more then the reality is.

I know some beekeepers operations here, that just pour, pour, and pour, sugar water to theirs beehives, and then they harvest it and sell to their customers as pure honey. Well by doing that things, not only you can get 100 kg/hives/year, you can harvest more than it, maybe more than half ton only from single hive.
But let me ask peoples in this forum, it’s true beekeeping? :slight_smile:

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@michang Great explanation.

Once I read a story about an ostrich, one day a lion run toward him to catch it, instead of fleeing, this ostrich just use his leg to make a hole in soil, big enough, then he put his head to it, and he say “oh well . . .now the lion is gone”, and then lion catch him.

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now, can you tell me who is more experience(knowledge) of beekeeping how much percent is about fall ? so i mean bees died and e.t.c

last i want ask everyone here; if i will learn beekeeping good and i will get experience then still is chance that my bees die anytime ?
if i have knowledge for it, that i take care of the bees then is still chance that my bees died ?

so i dont want die my bees when i will begin my business and i will have more hive with good knowledge and experience

ToQcHista
believe me I’m going to be really gentle here, so I’ll keep it short…
You need to get yourself at least 2 or 3 years experience of keeping bees before you even start to think about going commercial. Even when you have the experience, don’t expect to make a profit in the first years.

for everyone else, a bit of humour:
Q. What’s a guaranteed way to make a small fortune in beekeeping?
A. Start with a large fortune.

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Are you beekeeper ?

Is big chance that 3-4 years experience my bees still die ?

Yes. In much of the US, beekeepers with decades of experience still lose hives. I believe the current national figures are 25-30% losses over winter. This article discusses some of the causes of bee colony loss and so I am not going to type it all out again here :smile: :

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@Dawn_SD …patience of a saint…

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But exist reproduction of bees , 25-30% dies every winter but how much percent is reproduction in quantity ?

Google it. Don’t waste our time answering things you already know or can’t be bothered researching for yourself.

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