# Modify the flowframe

**URL:** <https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/modify-the-flowframe/31024>\
**Category:** Modifications & Building Bee Hives\
**Tags:** new-bees\
**Created:** [July 22, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/modify-the-flowframe/31024 "2021-07-22T11:16:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kristian\_Thuen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/kristian_thuen/32/25747_2.png) [@Kristian\_Thuen](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Kristian_Thuen)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/modify-the-flowframe/31024/1 "2021-07-22T11:16:12Z")

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Dear all!  
I’m new to beekeeping, but has followed the flowhive since the crowdfunding. Now the kids are a bit older and have startes to share my facination for bees.  
It appeals to me to be able to harvest the hony without the equipment needed for traditional frames. However, living in Norway, the readily available hives are of Norwegian Standard (NS) (HWL: 270x380x380mm), and the Langstroth frames will not fit (I think I will have to go with NS hive due to cold Weather, and the lokal hives here are made from PS and well insulated).  
So, to my question; I see on the flowhive web page that the length of the flowframe can be modified, but I can not find any description on how to do it, or anyone that has actually Done this. Can someone Please provide links to videos or descriptions of real world experience on this?

Thanks for your help

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**Author:** ![chau06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/chau06/32/25515_2.png) [@chau06](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/chau06)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/modify-the-flowframe/31024/2 "2021-07-22T12:09:41Z")

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> **[What are the dimensions of the Flow Frames?](https://support.honeyflow.com/what-are-the-dimensions-of-the-flow-frames/)**
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> The Flow Frames are designed to fit a standard Langstroth deep super. The Flow Super has the same measurements as a Langstroth deep (8 or 10 frame) super. The height of the Flow frame is 242mm; this perfectly fits a Langstroth deep box. The width of...

You can easily shorten the frame.

I would suggest getting a wood box in the NS standard dimensions to fit on top of your polystyrene brood box and modify it to accommodate the shortened flow frames.

> **[How do I Modify a Langstroth Box for Flow Frames?](https://support.honeyflow.com/modifying-a-langstroth-box-for-flow-frames/)**
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> The following steps are a guide to modify a standard 8- or 10-frame Langstroth super box to allow it to accommodate Flow Frames, both for fit and for harvesting. It should take you 1 to 2 hours to complete, depending on your skill level. Download the...

Or, as your box is narrower in both width and length you could cut down a flow super to fit your modified frames.

Sorry I don’t have any actual first hand experience…

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**Author:** ![skeggley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/skeggley/32/27522_2.png) [@skeggley](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/skeggley)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/modify-the-flowframe/31024/3 "2021-07-23T14:40:57Z")

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Hi Kristian, welcome to the forum.  
Here’s one that chau missed which may be of help.

> **[UK / British Standard National hives and Flow Frames](https://support.honeyflow.com/uk-british-standard-national-hives-and-flow-frames/)**
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> Our UK National sized Flow Supers to add to existing UK National beehives, are currently out of stock, however, it is possible to adapt our Flow Frames to fit in your UK National Hive. A UK National is a type of beehive which is shorter, wider and...
