# New pesticides 'may have risks for bees'

**URL:** <https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922>\
**Category:** General Bee Chat\
**Created:** [August 16, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922 "2018-08-16T03:16:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![SnowflakeHoney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/snowflakehoney/32/7036_2.png) [@SnowflakeHoney](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/SnowflakeHoney)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922/1 "2018-08-16T03:16:23Z")

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New pesticides ‘may have risks for bees’

…Studies suggest a new type of pesticide seen as an alternative to the chemicals, which have been banned in many countries, may have similar risks.

The new insecticides may reduce bumblebee reproduction in the wild, according to a study by UK scientists.

The alternatives had been sought because of the evidence linking neonicotinoids to declines in bee populations - leading to the bans and restrictions on their use…

> **[New pesticides 'may have risks for bees'](https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45185261)**
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> Attempts to find a new generation of pesticides to replace neonicotinoids have been dealt a potential blow.

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**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:30am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922/2 "2018-08-16T09:30:03Z")

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The “new” pesticide is actually sulfoxaflor  
It is a neonicotinoid that Bayer have reclassified to avoid the ban. It’s chemical structure is practically identical to all the others it has made  
Nice to see the shares nosedive. I bet they wish they hadn’t gobbled up Monsanto now.

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**Author:** ![Webclan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/webclan/32/11252_2.png) [@Webclan](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Webclan)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922/3 "2018-08-16T12:59:04Z")

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All Bayer can come up with are more pesticides. Forget them.  
Good on those who make their shares nosedive. Yay.

We need to completely rethink large scale farming on all levels. There are plenty of options to get a start on.  
It would help to have some leadership there. Something organically wholesome to replace Bayer.

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**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922/4 "2018-08-16T15:52:39Z")

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> [@Dee](#):
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> Nice to see the shares nosedive

I agree, but they actually took a dive because of a $289 million damage award from a lawsuit about Glyphosate (Roundup) causing cancer in a California school groundsman. They will appeal it of course, because there are several thousand more cases pending…

🤨

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**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922/5 "2018-08-16T17:41:54Z")

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Yes I know.  
There’s been lots here about it on the news

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922/6 "2018-08-16T19:51:30Z")

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Bayer should have stayed with just selling aspirin !

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**Author:** ![Faroe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/faroe/32/11835_2.png) [@Faroe](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Faroe)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/new-pesticides-may-have-risks-for-bees/15922/7 "2018-08-16T21:48:46Z")

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