# Pest? what is this **URL:** \ **Category:** General Bee Chat\ **Created:** [May 17, 2017, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261 "2017-05-17T00:03:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/1 "2017-05-17T00:03:42Z")
here is a video, don’t sure what these are and how do I get rid of them, or do I need to worry about it ---
**Author:** ![SnowflakeHoney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/snowflakehoney/32/7036_2.png) [@SnowflakeHoney](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/SnowflakeHoney)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/2 "2017-05-17T01:26:49Z")
Are they a type of ant? It’s a bit hard for me to see clearly. Given how actively they seem to be seeking out the nectar/honey I would be inclined to say you should get rid of them. Have you got some kind of ant trap under your hive? If not, I’d be looking into that. I run a water trap for ants under my hive. When that runs dry and I get a few ants on the hive I either swat them off or hose them off (I just don’t hose the front of the hive); a little bit of water is no worse than a winter storm. ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/3 "2017-05-17T01:51:47Z")
Others think their ants as well, I have used cinnamon to try to get rid of them That has not. they’re scurrying around almost like a roach they’re not marching in any kind of pattern ---
**Author:** ![SnowflakeHoney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/snowflakehoney/32/7036_2.png) [@SnowflakeHoney](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/SnowflakeHoney)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/4 "2017-05-17T01:53:28Z")
Not many people have had good success long term with cinnamon. Try borax or grease?? There are other threads here with more discussion on ant control. ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/5 "2017-05-17T01:56:24Z")
I was think of Borax, have not read about grease, Thank YOU ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/6 "2017-05-17T03:10:16Z")
Thank you again, OK I have read a lot but not sure what I want to do, looking for thoughts thinking for making a mixture of borax and suger, and spreading it here on the back side of the flow frames away from the bee’s. this is then only place I am seeing them. Don’t see them in the hive at all. Your thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![SnowflakeHoney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/snowflakehoney/32/7036_2.png) [@SnowflakeHoney](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/SnowflakeHoney)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/7 "2017-05-17T03:17:24Z")
@Martydallas Check this comment out: [http://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-borax-toxic-to-bees/3071/4?u=snowflakehoney](http://forum.honeyflow.com/t/is-borax-toxic-to-bees/3071/4?u=snowflakehoney) ---
**Author:** ![SnowflakeHoney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/snowflakehoney/32/7036_2.png) [@SnowflakeHoney](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/SnowflakeHoney)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/8 "2017-05-17T03:18:18Z")
@Martydallas This is another thread that might help you: [http://forum.honeyflow.com/t/getting-rid-of-ants/5740?u=snowflakehoney](http://forum.honeyflow.com/t/getting-rid-of-ants/5740?u=snowflakehoney) ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/9 "2017-05-17T03:18:55Z")
Yes, I read this, I don’t see that they are on the ground, can find where they are coming from, just trying to stop them from going into the flow frames ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/10 "2017-05-17T03:21:14Z")
[http://forum.honeyflow.com/t/getting-rid-of-ants/5740/4?u=martydallas](http://forum.honeyflow.com/t/getting-rid-of-ants/5740/4?u=martydallas) I will try this around the base and on the back side of the flow frames where I am finding them, bees are not back here ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 9:30am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/11 "2017-05-17T09:30:12Z")
Hi Marty, as others have said, it is hard to see what insect they are, because they are so small, but I would agree with ants being the most likely. Vaseline would be the safest option. Although borax would kill them, I would never put it within a hive structure - to much risk of it getting inside the hive and killing bees. I would also get your hive up onto ant moats, as most ants get into the hive from the stand. Some fly in, but if those are Argentine ants, you need to do this too. Not sure if they have reached Texas - maybe Texas A&M would know if you called to ask? Here is an article about the ants, which are the bain of my beekeeping life: > **[Argentine ant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_ant)** > > The Argentine ant, Linepithema humile (formerly Iridomyrmex humilis), is an ant native to northern Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia and southern Brazil. It is an invasive species that has been established in many Mediterranean climate areas, inadvertently introduced by humans to many places, including South Africa, New Zealand, Japan, Easter Island, Australia, Europe, Hawaii, and the continental United States. The worker ants are 1.6–2.8 millimetres (0.06–0.11 in) long\[dubious – discuss\] a... I would also pull out your slider and check it. They made a nest in mine when it was in the lower slot. 😱 ---
**Author:** ![yalepest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/839c29/32.png) [@yalepest](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/yalepest)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/12 "2017-11-18T06:10:55Z")
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**Author:** ![JeffH](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/jeffh/32/7192_2.png) [@JeffH](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/JeffH)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/pest-what-is-this/11261/13 "2017-11-18T06:33:15Z")
I see you are at it again.