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Did you mean to draw a very big 
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I meant to smile…in agreement
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I agree, I think he has a bit an acerbic wit also, which I enjoyed. Flagging people who don’t agree with you ‘not cool’. In english you is expressed as ‘one’. One can ignore… There are posts on here which have more reason to be flagged, but havn’t been.
I think he made the mistake of being exceedingly rude to a moderator, and then refused to apologize…
That sounds very… proper… to the American ear. Growing up, using such mannerisms would get you ribbed (playfully mocked) with a very posh RP accent “Oh? One shall? Brilliant! Shall one start using The Royal ‘We’ next? Pip, pip, cheerio.”
Personally, it makes me think of Arthur C. Clarke’s (an Englishman, of course) Bicentennial Man, and the line “One is happy to be of service.” It was used specifically because it sounds more dehumanizing than “I am happy to be of service.” American English doesn’t use “One” in that sense; we’d say “anyone”…
Incidentally! Fun Fact… Linguists have written that with the advent of the Industrial Revolution, the English commoners specifically decided to adopt the Received Pronunciation accent (modern London accent) specifically because it does sound posh, educated, and “Lordly”. In fact, the Old English accent shares more in common with the Boston Accent. So the next time you read Shakespeare, don’t imagine Kenneth Branaugh or Patrick Stewart… Think of Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Mark Wahlberg, or Conan O’Brien… that makes the iambic pentameter so much weirder. (Hark, what cah’s windows in Haavid Yaad doth break? Tis the east, and Juliet’s gunna be wickid pissed off.)
Funny that you should bring this up. I went to Home Depot this afternoon to track down some more vinyl tubing for draining my Flow frames. I couldn’t find it on the shelf, so I asked a guy “Could you tell me where I can find clear 1” I.D. vinyl tubing suitable for drinking water"? He said, “for what”? I said, “water”. He said, “a washer”? OK, so I have a home counties British accent, so I repeated myself with my strongest possible New York accent. He almost fell over backwards laughing - “Oh, so you must be British, but now I understand what you need!!” They were out of stock… 
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While I was researching about the topic of providing the bees more insulation…
I came across an interesting analysis at this website http://www.stewartfarm.org/bees.php .
From what I can see here, this view is that the original design of the Langstroth box provided for a double walled construction to provide more insulation. It seems, according to the articles here, that Langstroth was of the opinion that the double walled construction would be too expensive and not be adopted, but that the box and frames concept would be adopted.
It is also pretty obvious that pine or cedar boxes are not going to be nearly as insulative as a tree hollow or limestone cave or any other naturally chosen home by wild bees.
So when I found this about beekeeping in Slovenia http://www.slovenianbeekeeping.com/index-one.html , I was intrigued since they seem to be providing quite a bit of extra insulation and passive solar.
I am going to experiment with some of these ideas to help my bees. I’m staying away from any fans since they dont seem to make sense. Why would bees want a draft blowing through their home?
Thought people might like to read through some of these articles since its related to the solar topic. It has been a fairly cold mediterranean climate winter here in Adelaide, and not long before the bees will have to deal with some super hot summer weather.
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Hence the wink, [quote=“WillFa, post:26, topic:7889”]
would get you ribbed
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would here too, majority of the time. As a child I was sent to elocution lessons, it didn’t help socially at all at my first school, surprise, but parents insisted. My dad used to go & have tiffin at Arthur C Clarkes house after school, in Sri Lanka. I’m afraid though that watching 2001 is as close as I’ve come to his work. Brilliant fun fact[quote=“WillFa, post:26, topic:7889”]
(Hark, what cah’s windows in Haavid Yaad doth break? Tis the east, and Juliet’s gunna be wickid pissed off.)
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I’ve read those too, and I think am going to experiment side by side with a double walled hive.
I would like to hear how it goes.
Sure will post on here. Both will be starting ‘new’ to hives so similar numbers etc.
Actually I’m guessing you said “watah” rather than “water”…
As for Jape, he has gone by Finnman and and other variations of Finn on most of the bee forums until his rudeness upsets too many people. He’s from Finland (obviously when you see him as Finnman). I recognize his style. I agree that he has a lot of good experience to share, especially on keeping bees in bitter cold climates, but unfortunately, between language and cultural differences, he comes across as too abrasive for people. If only he would learn to disagree politely…
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although I didn’t encounter his derision personally- I actually quite enjoyed his harsh and final pronouncements. If people think he was excessively rude- God help them should they ever stumble onto the youtube comment section…
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No one likes a draft- especially in Winter- but a cool breeze in Summer, Spring and Autumn? Heaven sent. Whilst cold drafts might not be great- how good can stagnant humid air be? Nothing beats fresh air for the constitution. I always leave a bedroom window ajar… ! I do agree it would be tricky- but I think there may well be times when the bees might also enjoy added/enhanced ventilation?
It seems that when the climate is right- bees happily make hives out in the open air- under a tree branch- or wherever? They choose hollows in colder environments, where there are more predators? They are not wedded to the idea of living only in vertical tree hollows.
But evaporative cooling…very tricky to balance what we as humans think is a ‘cooling breeze’ and what interrupts a small insect wing waving of cooling as too drafty…From what I can tell, bees do not live off tree branches…they hang there a bit while swarming, but they make their homes in stable draft free environments.
not always- good timing- I have just been reading this thread:
the evaporator thing I was only thinking about in extreme heat and low humidity situations… a tiny solar powered fan is a different matter. It would only come on in the day- and correctly placed- could possibly help keep the hive drier and remove stale air?
https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/640/03e57397e0f03db4.jpg
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When my time comes, old age, for a long deep hive I will get my darling husband to make it double walled with half supers like the Beehaus. I plan to fill the double wall with PIR insulation.
Meanwhile I like my polystyrene hives for their insulation. I do, most years, have a couple of colonies over winter in wooden boxes and the bees do much much better in the poly
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Or it could interfere with their complex system of evaporation and ventilation and make them work directly against it… What would “correctly placed” be?
You’re assuming that internally the hive is consistent and homogeneous. Research shows that it’s not. Much like your house (may have/probably has) zone heating, Hives have different micro-climates for what’s happening in that part of the hive. A single, “one-size-fits-all” fan doesn’t take this into account, so probably wouldn’t be “helping”, per se. For example: blowing more air when it’s already low humidity may speed up nectar curing, but it also will make it harder to keep the appropriate level of humidity in the brood nest thus desiccating the larvae. Bees also keep the brood nest area about 93°F/34°C which is above ambient temperature for most of their habitable range. Cooling the hive isn’t doing them any favors and increases honey consumption.
Also consider that different kinds of bees have different preferences. Carniolans and Russians tolerate cold better than Italians and Scutella, based upon the amount of honey they consume while overwintering. Kangaroo Island Black Devils just don’t survive in Finland (according to Jape 
). Given that a queen mates with multiple drones and there can be multiple subfamilies and breeds in a single colony, how can you be sure that your efforts are good for the hive overall if you’re making things easier for the Caucasians but not the Italians…
Please remember that Bees originally were tropical insects that have evolved through the years to tolerate a wider range of climates. Just as you won’t die going from your air conditioned house, through the heat, to your air conditioned car; they’re adaptable little buggers, and can sort it out themselves. They don’t need perfection to prosper, live, or even just simply survive.
It’s a nice sentiment, but I agree with Michael - this is a time to leave well-enough alone. (Not that my opinion matters)
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