# Sagging Flow frames **URL:** \ **Category:** Flow Hive\ **Created:** [June 1, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996 "2019-06-01T12:42:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![anon63823775](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@anon63823775](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/anon63823775)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/1 "2019-06-01T12:42:17Z")
Is it normal that Flow frames sag? ---
**Author:** ![Webclan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/webclan/32/11252_2.png) [@Webclan](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Webclan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/2 "2019-06-01T12:49:08Z")
You mean the frame is bending downwards in the middle? If that would be what you mean, I can only think you need to tighten the wires. I had a couple of early batches of flow frames where the wires were quite sloppy and needed tightening before putting to work. ---
**Author:** ![anon63823775](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@anon63823775](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/anon63823775)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/3 "2019-06-01T12:54:17Z")
Yes that’s it - bending downwards in the middle. It was indeed the very first release. I only noticed on my last inspection before I sold the hive. I think they only started to sag recently, and they worked just fine. BTW, how do you tighten the wires? ---
**Author:** ![Webclan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/webclan/32/11252_2.png) [@Webclan](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Webclan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/4 "2019-06-01T12:58:52Z")
You can find a video on the flow website where Cedar explains it thoroughly. Perhaps somebody here can provide you with a direct link to it. It’s not hard to do. ---
**Author:** ![skeggley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/skeggley/32/27522_2.png) [@skeggley](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/skeggley)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/5 "2019-06-01T13:15:18Z")
Ask and Ye shall receive. ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/6 "2019-06-01T13:17:03Z")
That bandana is priceless. Cedar, a hippy? NEVER! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![anon63823775](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@anon63823775](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/anon63823775)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/7 "2019-06-01T13:24:15Z")
> [@skeggley](#): > > Ask and Ye shall receive. Ah… yes! I actually remember watching that video a long time ago… hoping I don’t have to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/8 "2019-06-01T13:28:28Z")
> [@anon63823775](#): > > hoping I don’t have to do that Don’t worry, that bandana would great on you! Otherwise you could just get some really long elastic bands and use those on the frames instead. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Webclan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/webclan/32/11252_2.png) [@Webclan](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Webclan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/10 "2019-06-01T13:39:32Z")
🤣 Honestly, it’s not hard, just awkward. Else, go by the advice of our über hippy Dawn. ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/11 "2019-06-01T13:41:27Z")
> [@Webclan](#): > > our über hippy Dawn I am nowhere near cool enough to be a hippy. The ultra “square” is probably more my style. 😜🤓 ---
**Author:** ![Webclan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/webclan/32/11252_2.png) [@Webclan](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Webclan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/12 "2019-06-01T13:48:44Z")
Any square scientist is a nerdy hippy deep down. How else could you be a scientist anyway? Takes one to see one. 🧐 You straightened the sagging flow frame with a bandana! That’s brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![Eva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@Eva](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Eva)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/13 "2019-06-01T17:13:48Z")
> [@Webclan](#): > > Any square scientist is a nerdy hippy deep down Amen to that, and vice versa 🤖🌸🍄🧫🧬🔮☮ ---
**Author:** ![Semaphore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/semaphore/32/14994_2.png) [@Semaphore](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Semaphore)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/14 "2019-06-02T02:23:19Z")
it would be kind of cool if they could make a new type of wire- with an adjustment nut for tightening- like a turnbuckle? ---
**Author:** ![anon63823775](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@anon63823775](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/anon63823775)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/15 "2019-06-02T02:48:52Z")
Is the tensioning of the wires a regular maintenance thing? Or is is something you do once and forget? ---
**Author:** ![Webclan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/webclan/32/11252_2.png) [@Webclan](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Webclan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/16 "2019-06-02T03:12:51Z")
We only had to do it on 2 of 16 flow frame sets. All others are still tight after being in use for 2 - 3 years. We will have to see in a few more years. We may have a few people on the forum with professional experience with those wires. Have a feeling the flow people would use high quality materials. ---
**Author:** ![anon63823775](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8c91f0/32.png) [@anon63823775](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/anon63823775)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/17 "2019-06-02T10:33:02Z")
Just had a look at my new hive and the wires are quite loose. I have to tighten them. Well it is actually one of the original flow hives which I bought second hand but unused. ---
**Author:** ![Eva](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@Eva](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Eva)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/sagging-flow-frames/21996/18 "2019-06-02T20:49:54Z")
As I recall, Flow shipped them out in good working order but it was discovered that many loosened in transit, which prompted that adorable video. If you got them second-hand & unused, it’s likely that the folks who ordered them just never knew to check the wires. I also had to tighten a few of my frames initially, but they’ve remained snug since.