# Which Queen Bee variety is recommended? **URL:** \ **Category:** Bee Breeding\ **Created:** [August 17, 2017, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360 "2017-08-17T10:56:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![davidmaccoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@davidmaccoll](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/davidmaccoll)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360/1 "2017-08-17T10:56:51Z")
Hello, I am in my first year of beekeeping and loving it, my bees were doing very well but swarmed 8 weeks ago. Having regularly checked to see if a new queen has been reared there has been no sign of her. I am looking to buy a new Queen asap but just wanted to ask for some advice on the variety/type to go for (buckfast, italian etc…)? Thank you, David ---
**Author:** ![Anon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@Anon](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Anon)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360/2 "2017-08-17T17:11:44Z")
A mutt that is local to your area because the eggs she lays will most likely be mutts since she open mates with up to 40 drones. ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360/3 "2017-08-17T17:37:51Z")
You are going to have a challenge overwintering that hive if they have been queenless for 8 weeks. The numbers of bees are going to be dropping fast now if there is no brood, and the nurse bees will have matured into foragers, making it hard for them to care for eggs and larvae. Any way you could merge them with another hive? Failing that, would anyone at your bee club be willing to donate a frame of bees, eggs and brood to your hive, or at least a frame of capped brood? If you are going to try with a purchased queen, you are going to need newly-emerged bees from such a donation, to care for her eggs. To answer your question about what type of queen, you need to decide what characteristics you want in your bees. Ed @Anon makes a good point, a local “mutt” queen is likely to be healthy and well-adapted to your local climate. However, most of the mutts I had in the UK were not the nicest temperament. Here is a useful chart of the various characteristics of different types of queen: > [@Types of queens](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/types-of-queens/6567/3): > > @Martydallas Marty This is a chart of bee types - 90% of bees are mongrel mixtures unless they come from a speciality bee breeder who can guarantee the pure line of the bees they offer. Unless artificially inseminated with specific Drone seaman or bred on a closed community/island then most bees are mixed I like Italians, or Italian/Cordovan crosses, especially if they have the VSH trait to help with varroa management. However, they eat a huge amount over winter, and you are very likely to need to feed them regularly. Many people in the UK like Buckfasts, if you can get them. However, if they replace the queen, the F2 generation daughter queens can be very mean. Carniolans also do well in the British climate, but they have a tendency to swarm early and often. Perhaps @Dee will chime in with her thoughts too. She is a long way west of you, but she has quite a bit of experience with which bees are readily available and where to get them. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Bush](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/michael_bush/32/1024_2.png) [@Michael\_Bush](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Michael_Bush)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360/4 "2017-08-17T18:09:11Z")
The difference from colony to colony is greater than the difference from race to race in honey bees. [http://bushfarms.com/beesraces.htm](http://bushfarms.com/beesraces.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360/5 "2017-08-17T20:18:47Z")
What I would do is ask your local bka if any member is uniting hives and has a spare queen. Lots of beekeepers are doing just that at this time of year. That way you have a chance of overwintering these bees. I would put them into a poly nuc box. For next year you could do worse than getting a queen from GED Marshall of oak field honey. They are the best hobby Buckfast in the country in my opinion and would be a great start to a split [http://www.britishhoneyproducersltd.com/Contact\_Us.html](http://www.britishhoneyproducersltd.com/Contact_Us.html) Italians are not the best suited to the uk. They brood and brood and eat all their stores. ---
**Author:** ![davidmaccoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@davidmaccoll](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/davidmaccoll)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 9:17am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360/6 "2017-08-23T09:17:10Z")
Thank you all for your replies, really helpful. ---
**Author:** ![vceliakralovna](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/vceliakralovna/32/26022_2.png) [@vceliakralovna](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/vceliakralovna)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360/7 "2022-11-10T19:34:34Z")
A bee farm specializing in the breeding and sale of queen bees. The breeder has very good results, his queen bee is very high quality! You can see his website where he sells F1 queen bees. [včelie matky](https://www.vceliakralovna.sk) ![241114000_249445820514749_2491806993462851475_n](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/3X/5/6/567349db0e4a45e5725db095a1bf695e4653968f.jpeg) It basically boils down to: Honey yield Defensive behavior Peace of mind during the inspection Tendency to swarm Varroa resistance Disease resistance As you have pointed out many times, selective breeding is rarely practiced because of the uncontrolled way bees are raised. The only way to practice selective breeding is to either use machine insemination or island mating stations. ---
**Author:** ![Simonsais](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/simonsais/32/28458_2.png) [@Simonsais](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Simonsais)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/which-queen-bee-variety-is-recommended/12360/8 "2022-12-27T19:12:51Z")
> [@vceliakralovna](#): > > breeding so a beautiful [breeding](https://kohiclicks.com/blog) farm.