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Why is the wiring of the frames better horizontal?

I bough 8 sheets of specially safe wax at the school on Tuesday night and the wire… but I don’t quite know how to fix it. I think you need a machine that I don’t have ! :woman_facepalming:

There are lots of videos on youtube showing you how to do it. All you really need is a couple of small nails for the ends of the wires, and a pair of pliers to pull firmly on the wire. Most pliers have a wire cutter built into them, so you can use that. Hard to get it really tight without a wiring jig, but it can be done.

Nice article here, including how to make a jig:
http://canberrabees.com/wiring-a-bee-hive-frame-with-basic-tools/

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@Dawn_SD, thank you…I just saw the link, fantastic and very well explained.
Also saw that I need the little round metal to put into the holes before the wire… and I also need to make the holes a little bit bigger otherwise they never fit in there…I will need to go out and buy them to… All of this will be a trip… :rofl: :rofl: :woman_facepalming: :woman_facepalming:

It will be a 12 volt battery charger Helene and it will do the job. It only needs a second or less to heat the wire to get the wax to melt to the wire.
Cheers

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@Peter48 @Dawn_SD you are of so much help, Thank you so much ! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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You don’t need those “grommets” or eyelets. They just stop the wire from cutting into the wood of the frame. If you are not a commercial beekeeper, you are unlikely to put enough wear and tear on the frames to make the eyelets necessary. :wink:

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Hopefully… next week I will have the courage to try and start all of this…
This are my sheets of wax… I need to cut them to size…as they are the D.Blatt sizes! Photos are not very clear… sorry…
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@Dawn_SD ohh you safed part of my life… thank you !

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@Dawn_SD. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: beekeeper ? what is that ? I have not even started yes… and if I go on like this I probably will never start on time… Thank god is still winter here and cold so I can work slowly and try not to make too many mistakes… also on cutting to size the wax sheets… :woman_facepalming:

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Hi Pete, you must have an old battery charger like mine, that doesn’t some with a circuit breaker. The newer ones that come with a circuit breaker don’t work unless they are connected to a battery.

@Helene1, you need to have a board that the foundation sits on. So that the frame is not sitting on the table. Then you need a 12v embedding tool like the one at the end of my video.


The start of the video shows what happens when the wire is not embedded into the foundation properly. I used to sell colonies on a byo frames basis, then incorporate the colony into the customer’s frames. The customer didn’t embed the wires into the foundation properly.

I don’t do that any more. I supply the frames with the colonies these days.
cheers

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My jump starter works though, and it is new. You just have to keep pressing the Boost button as it only lets current flow for about 30 seconds

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A jump starter is different to a battery charger. A jump starter would be similar to using a battery. With a batter charger, using it to embed wire into foundation is shorting it out, therefore the safety switch will instantly activate. A battery doesn’t have a safety switch, so I’m assuming a jump starter doesn’t either.

I used to carry a fully charged jump starter in my boat as a back up. What a waste of time that was. It didn’t do anything to start my 7.3 litre diesel engine.

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You are right Jeff, a jump starter doesn’t have a circuit breaker that battery chargers have had added to them for about the last 25 years. My charger dates back well past then.
Another good clip on how to embed foundation into a wired frame, it is well explained how to do it right and the common mistake…
Cheers

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Thanks Pete, I thought I’d better explain in the comment because @Helene1 wouldn’t understand one word in the video.

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Well done cousin, it must be a struggle for Helene to get her head around bee keeping which is all new to her, when all the advice she gets is in English and not Italian. It must be making her feel like she is biting off more than she can chew sometimes. Give her a 10 for keeping going.
Cheers

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Hi Helene,

I live in the UK and don’t use any wire or wax foundation.

The Bees will sort all that out themselves. This picture was after only one week of a newly installed nucleus.

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You don’t have to make a jig for a small volume of frames. The cost of pre-wired frames is cost effective and time saving at least here.

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Very valid point, when there is only one or two hives it isn’t really justified going to the expense of a framing jig and wiring board.
Cheers

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I built my own jig out of scrap ply, some old thread spools, nuts and bolts and this and that. The only thing I had to buy was the door jamming thing from bunnings for $5. I LOVE it. The advantage of a jig is that it helps to keep the wires tight. You can do the same using some clamps in a pinch… You certainly don’t need a frame jig if you are just making a few frames- but it sure would help- I need to make one when I get the time. I use a cheap battery charger- it’s new but obviously doesn’t have the auto cut off feature as it works fine- and I just use the two clamp touching the wire at each end- don’t need the special tool.

Having said all of that: wiring and embedding is a bit of an art- and if you don’t make that many you can really make a motza of it when you don’t have experience. Badly assembled frames are more trouble than they are worth. The last thing you want is a frame that falls apart when you try to lift it out of a hive or spin it. I have seen a lot of badly wired frames in my time. It took me a while to get the hang of it. For that reason- if you only need a few dozen frames- i would buy them all pre-done. The Urban Beehive in Sydney has good wired frames with 100% pure Australian beeswax (Tobin and Sons), they have eyelets and are glued and nailed- with nails through the sides as well as the tops and all for $7.20 each. They post Australia wide. Making it yourself you can possibly do it for around $3.50-4- but only if you buy frames and wax in bulk.

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@Peter48 thank you is nice to now that someone far away from Italy on the other side of the world has some simply for me… :woman_facepalming:
@JeffH I saw your film. and is very clear , Thank you- @Dawn_SD @Zzz @ Thank you for all advise.
well i don’t want to give up yet ( but I am close to it ) with this adventure…
Whent down to see the battery that I have. I use it to charge my little Fiat 500…
I see that it also has a 6 V not only 12 V… maybe it works better… ?
** And…just to make my life easier…I just saw that I have another problem to resolve…** …
This bladdy wax sheet of there D. Blatt frames are not the size of mine FH…
I just put my frame over the wax to take a photo…
I am missing a piece of 2,5 cm at the end as you can see…
Should I leave it like that or add the missing piece and somehow make it stick together ?
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