# Winterizing The Hive. Cariboo, BC, Canada **URL:** \ **Category:** Wintering your Flow Hive\ **Created:** [October 17, 2016, 5:37am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911 "2016-10-17T05:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/43 "2016-11-17T18:13:12Z")
Well when I first wintered hives I took every bit of advice I could get, looked at what people local to me did and made a decision. I insulate wooden boxes now and the bees do better. They survive without insulation. They survive with just sugar syrup. They do much much better with extra warmth and their own honey. Pollen patties go on in the spring if the weather is bad and they can’t get out to the willow. I’ve been looking at Infra red cameras and I’ll get pictures on here of insulated boxes, uninsulated boxes and poly. That might be interesting ---
**Author:** ![Cowgirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/cowgirl/32/2469_2.png) [@Cowgirl](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Cowgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/44 "2016-11-17T20:01:24Z")
Consider the Flir which attaches to your iPhone. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Yeager](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/john_yeager/32/4082_2.png) [@John\_Yeager](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/John_Yeager)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/45 "2016-11-17T20:59:22Z")
@Cowgirl Which one did you get? ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/46 "2016-11-17T21:23:21Z")
> [@Gerald\_Nickel](#): > > You have a couple years on me but you remembered Which way, Jerry? I remember the lunar landings, but I don’t remember JF Kennedy! And that is because I was too young, not because I am now too senile! 😛 Just joking with you, don’t take it the wrong way. 😍 ---
**Author:** ![lilmama479](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@lilmama479](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/lilmama479)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/47 "2016-11-17T22:24:15Z")
So I was wanting to feed my bee’s this winter with candy boards, and the one I bought and filled isn’t the correct size. I’m in WA state. What size should I be looking for, need to get one asap. ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/48 "2016-11-17T22:36:08Z")
> [@lilmama479](#): > > the one I bought and filled isn’t the correct size. I’m in WA state. What size should I be looking for, need to get one asap. Ermm, what kind of hive do you have? If it was the complete Flow hive kit, it is an 8-Frame Langstroth, so you need a board to feed that size. Having had a brief look, it seems that 8-frame candy boards are not widely available. However, Rusty Burlew has an alternative idea on her website: > **[How to make candy boards (and candy cakes) for bees](https://www.honeybeesuite.com/candy-board-feeders-for-honey-bees/)** > > Candy board feeders can be awkward and heavy, so I prefer candy cakes. They are made basically the same way but are easier to handle. I am sure that many of our other members will have ideas too. I am lucky that it doesn’t get cold enough here to need candy, but I wish you luck! ---
**Author:** ![Anon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@Anon](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Anon)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/50 "2016-11-17T22:59:00Z")
The only winterizing I do is mouse protection for them and a bottle of single malt for me lol ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/51 "2016-11-17T23:04:22Z")
> [@Anon](#): > > mouse protection for them and a bottle of single malt for me lol Love it! I use the mouse guards year round, because the bees don’t seem to mind. Single malt, hmm, my bees still seem to stay active over winter. In fact, the last few days, it looks like San Diego may have a bit of a nectar flow - at least the Arnia shows the hive weight increasing! 😲 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/b/be9738ac8b235f74423bfa7199101ef0569e9899.png) ---
**Author:** ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/52 "2016-11-18T00:26:00Z")
Heck Dawn, Not a chance of offending this moss covered old goat up here in the Cascade foothill. Our temps are finally tapering down to normals with night temps in high 30’s n daily highs right at the 50 dgs mark. ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/4/41f83c978389d981b508c2c8b3ede93749be0c51.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/7/7c793897fff8ee3674d8710b174ceddab27affcb.jpg) ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/8/86da375851698a33298bab1b2a48830817a7a238.jpg). Today I wasn’t home at out mid-day heatwave ( 52.1 dgs F about 13:53 ) this afternoon. Temps sliding off as the sunsets soon. Forecast is for more clearing overnight with lows to mid 30’s Brrr ! Got my supper in the oven ![](https://cdck-file-uploads-us1.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/8/843bfc948867692c814340d356cb6817de320ffb.jpg) I put my ear against the flow n think I heard a low droning hummmm ! So hoping they are happy campers. Got to get back to preparing supper now. Nightie nite ! Cheers, Gerald ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/53 "2016-11-18T00:28:55Z")
> [@Gerald\_Nickel](#): > > Got to get back to preparing supper now. Nightie nite ! Pork loin roast? Would be great with a little honey poured over it… 👿 ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/54 "2016-11-18T01:29:27Z")
> [@Cowgirl](#): > > Hi. We got the FLIR One which is for the iPhone 5/5s. It works like a charm. I just got an iPhone 6s (I specifically bought same size as 5) and it also works. > > Your phone will nest into a case that neatly slides into the charging part of your iPhone. You turn it on and photograph the object. I would suggest getting the newest one it has a lot better camera higher resolution on thermal separation. And since it also has the lightning, it will work with future phones ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/55 "2016-11-18T01:31:56Z")
> [@Dawn\_SD](#): > > ove it! I use the mouse guards year round, because the bees don’t seem to mind. Single malt, hmm, my bees still seem to stay active over winter. In fact, the last few days, it looks like San Diego may have a bit of a nectar flow - at least the Arnia shows the hive weight increasing! Look at his recent article I found [http://www.theabk.com.au/articles/2016/7/28/a-package-of-minor-changes-to-langstroth-hives-for-major-benefits](http://www.theabk.com.au/articles/2016/7/28/a-package-of-minor-changes-to-langstroth-hives-for-major-benefits) ---
**Author:** ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/56 "2016-11-18T01:48:16Z")
Dawn, After listening to my Humm/buzzers ! Since I didn’t observe the bees today I decided LISTEN. I’m practicing Hearing my honeybees here. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/5/520f724b106b9357bf4f4594a0e6daeaeb48e138.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/3/3b1eb50b377e5855c47c55af92f953f1adb6488f.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/4/459903b4c8e6766cf41866f11197f7d273a47fab.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/4/48046071820656077182192a2b2c6844beb6d129.jpg). I barely hear the smaller double deep Nuc … I tapped the box n got a healthy quick (BUZZ)… So it’s Good ! Oh Dawn ! I was planning using some of my wildflower honey. Here’s a pix or three. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/f/fa54251dc659c34c5e322f53746e8634bafb8915.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/2/23a6be0bdaf042510271349c25aae6e7902b5e11.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/7/71fc4b20b5a019f448456d2e6e609e18feb23041.jpg). What do you think ? I can hardly wait to eat some of this loin with orange n wildflower honey. Yum Yum, Gerald ---
**Author:** ![Martydallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/martydallas/32/284_2.png) [@Martydallas](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Martydallas)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/57 "2016-11-18T01:54:30Z")
Listening to the bees 🙂 I just wrote this review for the Apivox I’m a new beekeeper, one hive (March 2016) and I have been trying to learn as much as possible through reading (forums), lectures, my local beekeeper’s association and YouTube. I was able to get a mentor a few weeks before getting my NUC. Every time I do an hive inspection (which is recommended every 2 weeks) and no matter how careful I am, I worry for the next week that I might have killed my queen in the process. A longtime beekeeper that I know said she could hear the bees in stress. She did say that she could hear them only through lots of training and years of working with the bees. I thought that was interesting and started research. I came across a beekeeper in Northeast Oklahoma (USA) who teaches classes on natural beekeeping including a class about the sounds that bees make. In this class he covers work conducted by Eddie Woods, during World War II, which analyzed bee sounds and the corresponding meanings. He also demonstrates an amazing device (Apivox) that is based on that work. It actually listens to the bees and interprets their sounds. After seeing it in action, I immediately had to have one of my own. I can’t tell you how reassuring it is to have this handy device that can recognize if the hive is queen-less, if a honey flow is in progress or if hive ventilation needs to be increased. It actually suggested to me that I make my hive entrance larger. Since having the device and becoming more comfortable with it I am able to go into the hive less frequently, maybe now every 4 weeks. During the studies Eddie Woods made, he was able to accurately predict a swarm without having to do a hive inspection, up to 4 – 5 weeks in advance. Through those studies, if you’re able to go into your hive less often, honey production and the health of hive dramatically increases. You do not have to go into your hive every 2 weeks if you choose not to, naturally only after you build the trust with the device. I now consider this device an essential tool for maintaining the health of my hives and my sanity! it is truly an amazing piece of work. > **[Glebskij Serjio](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg-ceiDgcX3WXS0fWqNXWmQ)** > > This channel is for those, who want to use APIVOX AUDITOR in their everyday work with bees Этот какал для тех кто хочет использовать APIVOX AUDITOR в своей п... > **[APIVOX AUDITOR New device for monitoring the state of bee colonies](http://www.apivoxauditor.com/)** > > Now, it is high time to present our development “BEEKEEPER’S ACOUSTIC ASSISTANT” - a mobile application, which main task is - to turn your smartphone into a control and measuring instrument that allows you to receive and interpret the acoustic dat ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/58 "2016-11-18T01:56:06Z")
> [@Gerald\_Nickel](#): > > I barely hear the smaller double deep Nuc … I tapped the box n got a healthy quick (BUZZ)… So it’s Good ! I should send you one of my pediatric or neonatal stethoscopes! 😊 > [@Gerald\_Nickel](#): > > What do you think ? I can hardly wait to eat some of this loin with orange n wildflower honey. I would call you to tell what I think, but all you would hear is the sound of my drooling! 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Gerald\_Nickel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/gerald_nickel/32/1910_2.png) [@Gerald\_Nickel](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Gerald_Nickel)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/59 "2016-11-18T05:18:47Z")
Dawn, It would have been entertaining listing to your hunger pangs n slurping tongue action on that end. It was awesome n delicious ! Wish you lived closer. We’d SHARE the Honey/Orange loin … Now your other note… Would one of those stethoscopes really work well ? I never thought of that. Plus wouldn’t have a clue where to get one … I know my neck sure got a kink in it trying to hear the NUC BUZZ ! Deal with that idea later … Got to get washing dishes n cleaning up the kitchen now. Ta Ta, Jerry ---
**Author:** ![Dawn\_SD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dawn_sd/32/15954_2.png) [@Dawn\_SD](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dawn_SD)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 7:28am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/60 "2016-11-18T07:28:17Z")
> [@Gerald\_Nickel](#): > > Would one of those stethoscopes really work well ? Yup. Both @Dee and @Anon have been known to use stethoscopes on hives. Probably not pediatric ones, but doesn’t matter that much. ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/61 "2016-11-18T07:53:15Z")
No stethoscope for me. An ear squashed to the side of the hive is much better ---
**Author:** ![Anon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@Anon](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Anon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/62 "2016-11-18T11:18:59Z")
Stethoscope here: My delicate virgin ears get cold unlike Dee who lives in a sunny warm paradise where the only cold and snow they see are on the National Geographic channel 😆 I don’t use a pediatric one because in winter there are no baby bees. ---
**Author:** ![Dee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.honeyflow.com/dee/32/5840_2.png) [@Dee](https://forum.honeyflow.com/u/Dee)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911/63 "2016-11-18T13:16:07Z")
> [@Anon](#): > > unlike Dee who lives in a sunny warm paradise where the only cold and snow Ha ha …yes I can imagine getting your ear stuck to the hive…ouch. Snow! Look here, mind you it was 2010 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/honeyflow/original/2X/c/ccf6af23fa0e481ca2793db38ae28be43356d754.jpg) [Previous page](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.honeyflow.com/t/winterizing-the-hive-cariboo-bc-canada/8911.md?page=4)