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Alternative extraction methods- Honey presses, etc


#21

But I’d have thought that’d be ok as all the oil floats to the top?

Time to hit up google for the straight dope…

Edit- here it is:

Dan I think the ‘how not to’ part might be relevant to your idea- and the ‘how to’ seems to indicate that the Apple press would be up to the job…

I think I’ve concluded it’s too much hard work :shushing_face: I think I’d be better placed to swap honey for olive oil.


#22

Ok- press arrived- review time:

Pros: simple yet robust- bucket and mesh bucket quite thick steel- strong.

Cons: I don’t think this will work well for honey unless you consistently do very large volumes l.

  1. spout not wide enough or in base- only 1cm wide- different than pictured on eBay
  2. works best with a full load- hard to always do with honey and not ideal
  3. the jack slips and loses compresino before it’s getting to full extension (made loud pop)- not sure what pressures I’m achieving- might work better with a higher quality jack…
  4. I think it won’t squash down far enough to fully compact wax- wax to honey ratio too low…

Dang! False economy again.

I tested it with grapes and got a lot less juice than I thought I would… about 1 liter- with some effort (too much effort). Completely delicious- but wasteful I think. Might be able to make it work if you kept adding grapes or apples into the squashed pile?


#23

Update: I played around more with this press- it really is very robust- but I think the jack isn’t quite up to the job. If you had a better quality and slightly larger one I think results would be better. Too much work for me to modify it… I’m sending it back


#24

Hi Jack - shame.

In an episode of the River Cottage Aus. they were using a press to get out comb honey. Not sure if you have seen that episode, but SBS has all the episodes…they used a slightly different system…


#25

Something similar that is designed for separating honey from wax.

http://hornsby-beekeeping.com/warre-extractor-comb-crusher/


#26

I think the one Adrian Lodice (I think it was him) used looked more like the $660 one on “related products” on that link Rod. I know nothing about them, but it looks like the one he used had no pipe to block up …if you get what I mean…


#27

I did see that. I’ve looked at that type- they cost more- but are probably worth it


#28

$660 is so much to spend (for me)- I can’t quite justify it- there are cheaper ones- but once again- it’s probably a false economy.


#29

I just received the latest news from The Urban Beekehive in Sydney and saw they had a sale on their economy press. Mind you the flasher one does look really good. I kinda like the theory behind the screw press rather than the jack…

Adam


#30

Argh! That looks basic but extremely robust - all stainless- large capacity.

I’ve just gone and grabbed a slightly cheaper one- that may or may not work for honey:

https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Generation-5-3L-Italy-Style-Multi-purpose-Wine-cide-Honey-Mead-Cheese-Press-/161980448485

I prolly would have gone for the urban one if I had my time again.

I’m worried about several issues with the one I got- spout blockage- honey pooling on top of the plate and not escaping fast enough through the basket- and the alloy thread wearing out- or breaking. But maybe I saved a few dollars :grimacing::roll_eyes:


#31

https://www.samsclub.com/sams/mason-jar-bee-hive-club-980097293/prod22170075.ip

No extraction needed!


#32

I wonder how that is being received by the anti-flow crowd?


#33

bit silly that put the brood view window at the frame end side… Otherwise looks OK :wink: It looks like the jars each have individual queen excluder meshes.


#34

Wait what, liquid smoke? What’s that about?


#35

I can tell a lot by being able to count the frames of bees in a hive. With a side window we can see one side of one frame, usually a honey/drone frame.


#36

It looks a bit tight, working in those jars…
I think it would be difficult to get all the bees out.

Variations on a theme :purple_heart::honeybee::honey_pot::ok_hand:t4:


#37

It’s actually a very poplar method. All that’s needed is a sheet of plywood with holes drilled to fit the mouth’s of the jars. Pop the jars in and place it over a very populated hive over a queen excluder and during a honey flow.


#38

Apparently it is wood smoke somehow ‘distilled’ - you add water and spray it onto the bees. supposedly it works OK- and may be an alternative for total fire ban times.

@Red_Hot_Chilipepper maybe so- but i’d much rather look at the face of a frame than all the frame ends. And you can tell a lot from those honey/drone frames… Is there Honey? Are there drones? etc.:face_with_raised_eyebrow:


#39

Trust me…from someone who experiences a real winter, being able to count pockets of bees is useful information. Looking at the outside of the last frame is useless.


#40

are you saying my Mediterranean climate ‘winter’ isn’t real? Why then do I have draw full of woolen socks and two sets of thermal underwear?? I tell you at times it get’s quite chilly here- as low as 4 degrees Centigrade !! :wink:

Like I said- maybe so- but you go to far too say that view is ‘useless’. If there are drones: there is surplus- if there is honey- there is honey. I I have hives with windows like that into the brood and I can see the queen laying (sometimes), see if there are drones, get an idea on activity, watch bee dances and more.