First time, first super, brood in the roof

I know. I have been losing sleep over this. I am thinking I will take the super out and put the hive back the way I found it. Then in a couple of weeks I will add another super. I thought about removing the comb stuck to the roof and putting it in the new super in place of a couple of frames. Will that work? Or is this a bad idea?

Sooo true Eva, I hear an accent here just from the spelling, funny. Same with @Martha :smile:. It’s funny listentng to my Irish work colleague putting on an American accent so Google understands him. :joy:
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I wish. Cooler State maybe but climate? :sunglasses:

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I wouldn’t put it in the Flow super with plastic flow frames. The reason is that you will mess up the bee space if you do that, and they will probably use that as an excuse to build crazy comb. That would be a lot more work to clear up.

I definitely would remove it from the roof. My preference would be to crush and strain it if there are no larvae in it. If there isn’t too much, you could do that in a kitchen sieve over a bowl. You can then render the wax. Even simpler would be to eat it as comb honey, again only if there are no larvae. If you see larvae in it, let us know and I have some ideas, but I don’t want to type it all out if it is irrelevant. :blush:

and @Eva The adrenaline in an epi-pen that I injected into her thigh didn’t even neutralize the effects of the venom. I only had the one. When the doctor arrived I told him a brief of events while he checked for a pulse and heart beat then straight away told me to keep working on her and he went straight for her heart with adrenaline and the nurse set up an injection point in the back of her hand(a catheter or a stint, I have forgotten what it is called) and more adrenaline and a white liquid. I recall that her eyes had rolled back and heaps of very sticky saliva. That made me think I had lost her but he said he was getting a heart beat and for me to do respiration only and he would monitor her heart, still no blood pressure.
From the time the first responder arrived it was and hour and a half till the doctor said she was ok to be loaded into the ambulance and she was able to nod her head and understood and recognized my voice…
I went to take her 2 flow hives and the Langstroth from her place to my apiary just on dark today. When me and her husband got back from taking the hives a lovely dinner and lots of explaining and way too much wine for me., especially to Kelvin, her husband. Lysa gave what recollections she had and knew she had died from the Dr talking to her at the Hospital in his talking to her that she had to give up the bees… The dinner was a bit uncomfortable for me, Lysa kept reaching over to put her hand on my arm. Kelvin noticed but didn’t say anything. I guess he understood I was now a good friend of hers.
She saw me to my car and we chattered some more, finally a good night kiss and a ‘thanks, can I call you Dad’ Somehow I found the way home which was not a bad effort with the wine but we had to celebrate.ok… Now 3am, good night and cheers. :flushed:

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I think any husband would think it is perfectly OK to put a hand on the arm of the guy who saved a life. Seriously, you are one of life’s unsung heroes to my mind. If you hadn’t acted calmly, logically and knowledgeably, there is no question that she would have died. The brain can live for about 4 minutes without a pulse, after that, you are toast. Given the time needed for the first responders to arrive, you saved her without a doubt. :blush:

Everybody who keeps bees should know CPR, and learn how to use an Epi-pen. You can probably get a YouTube certification in it! :smile: I am serious though. What we do is dangerous for some people, and we should all be able to respond like @Peter48 did so admirably.

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She got 2 stings on her shoulder a couple of months ago but just itching and no swelling worth noting. Sometimes I get itching and some swelling and as I work my hives if they are calm in shorts and a T shirt I am now thinking I may need to think again about it. We should all know CPR, when you gotta do it it is too late to look up a book.
cheers Possum

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So am I Eva, we had become good mates and she was so keen to soak up information and spend time with me at my apiary. Her bees were a big part of life.Mentoring her on bee keeping was a pleasure and so much fun.
Cheers mate

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I see larvae in it. I was thinking of putting an additional brood box and putting the comb in there not in the flow super.

That would be absolutely fine, but you will end up with a bigger hive, which can become a challenge for inspections. Your profile doesn’t say what part of Texas you are in, but with some cooler TX climates, hives do better with 2 brood boxes anyway. If you don’t want 2 brood boxes long term, you could put the comb (rubber-banded) into a medium or shallow super on top of the Flow frames.

Once the larvae have hatched and emerged, you can remove the super and the comb and render it for wax. The bees will probably move the honey down while the larvae emerge, as they prefer it to be as close as possible to the main brood nest.

Just a possibility. I am sure that others will think of more. :wink:

Just speechless after your last post. Other than to say I’m refreshing my CPR ASAP.

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Thanks Dawn, I’m not liking the idea that I am some sort of ‘hero’, I just knew how to help her. Fortunately I had training in what needed to be done so got into doing it. It was a lot harder than doing it with a dummy in a training class though. The good thing is that we now know why she has often got bees around her hair – rose essence hair conditioner, and it smells strongly of roses.
I just hope that at least it will make people think about learning CPR and even basic First Aid. Think about it folks and make the time. :thinking:

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An epi-pen contains adrenaline and antihistamine but with someone like Lysa it wasn’t nearly enough to even stop her sliding let alone towards a positive direction with that sting.
It is mind blowing that 2 months earlier she had 2 consecutive stings with just ‘itching and slight swelling’ but we know that bee venom can vary and change with time.
Cheers

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You were certainly well prepared. Most clubs now have defibs and I am seeing them everywhere. They are great units with fail safe instructions designed to be used by anyone.
Well done.

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Lysa’s husband should make it a priority to train in CPR too. You can’t avoid all bees in the environment. Next time she gets stung, you may not be there, and her family should know what to do. :astonished:

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That is so very true and I will talk to Lysa about that. She needs to email or text me daily and I enjoy that. At least each day I know she is recovering form the trauma of a week ago.
Regards to you

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Holy crap! what a story? Peter- well done mate- and can I just say- you’ve had enough bee keeping related ‘unexpected and terrifying events’ this year to last a lifetime? I really hope it’s all smooth sailing from here on in. I feel very sorry that your friend cannot keep keeping bees. Maybe if she really has the bug (forgive the pun) she could have a go at keeping stingless bees? I think I would do that if I couldn’t keep honey bees as I really get so much out of it beyond the honey.

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Thanks Jack, I will talk with Lysa about the idea of sting-less bees. That might be an excellent option for her. She is really desperate to stay with bee keeping in some way and not even considering giving it up totally.
I will also pass on your wishes for her as I have done with the rest of the forum family.
Cheers Jack

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