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Hello all
Would it be too risky to get used boxes (empty), bases, queen excluders etc, of an unknown former bee keeper? even tough they haven’t been used for a few years? How long diseases remain viable in the boxes? is there a suitable way to disinfect them?

I intend to prepare a few brood boxes and get ready to bring 2 or 3 nucs in the spring (September/October).
Any thoughts?
thank you
Marcus

Hi Marcus, you should probably scorch that wooden ware to kill off any possible AFB spores - these can remain viable for 20 years. Other less formidable pests like wax moth cocoons should be easy to spot and scrape away. As I recall from previous posts on the topic, you should make sure your boxes are well aired out after a scorching event before putting a new colony in.

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I agree with Eva, I always scrape clean before scorching any second hand beekeeping gear. I have heard that AFB spores stay viable for up to 40 years. I found that colonies without brood will abscond from a freshly scorched box. They wont abscond if I include lots of brood. A little bit of lemongrass oil also helps in holding a colony to a freshly scorched box.

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Hah and I’ve heard 70! Regardless, it’s long enough that we want to be certain not to have any around…

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I think I like wood work more than just the idea of having AFB. Not worth the the risk in my first year…
Thank you all!!

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Short term pain for long term gain…good move Marcusk!

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Definitely the right decision to make Marcus. All the second hand stuff I scraped before scorching was given to me. I certainly wouldn’t be in the market for second hand stuff. One thing I do with all my boxes is treat with copper naphthenate. Hoop pine or radiata pine is susceptible to dry rot. Water has a habit of getting under paint & causing dry rot.

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Thank you Jeff
Do I paint outside only or inside AND outside?

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Hi Marcus, it’s up to you what you do. Personally after letting the copper naphthenate completely dry, I apply 2-3 coats of water base good quality house paint inside AND outside.

I mix the copper n. with about 80% turps, then let each side of a box soak for about 6 hours.

The beekeeping community is a bit divided on whether to paint the inside or not. You’ll have to make your own mind up on which way you want to go.

I feel that I have another 30 good years of beekeeping left in me, being only in my seventy fourth year. Therefore I want my gear to last the distance.

cheers

PS You need to try to avoid this from happening, if at all possible.
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That’s a bit of a bummer, Jeff

That means I only have 30 years left to learn something about beekeeping then… You may be required to stay around a bit longer than that…

Thank you for your advice.

I may have to swap the box from the brood box and give it better treatment as only varnished it when I got it last spring. Any suggestions to do this swap other than being very careful with the queen? Is it best that I wait for the spring or do I do it soon?
Thanks again
Marcus

You’re welcome Marcus. Just pick a warm dry day & put the frames back in the same order. Work from the rear of your hive & keep your smoker going to assist you in not squashing bees while placing frames etc,