Hi Folks,
I’m a newcomer using standard Warre TBHs and wondering if the Warres might be used with the Flow?
By the way, I’m not a competent do-it-yourselfer…
From what I have heard… Yes.
You can remove a few of the rails from the Flow frame to adjust the length to fit the Warre. It will just have to be the correct depth of box/frame… and I don’t know the details on how to make sure the ends fit perfectly. I have heard they will make a video on how to do that later on in the Flow YouTube channel.
I suspect the honey bees would fill in any gaps anyways.
Marty
Thank you so much great8. I’m going to be operating with 2 Warres and the Flow and I’d let the Flow into the mini-apiary as is but I feel a Warre configuration would be much better. Otherwise, the bees might all move into the Warres since they have zero interest in my ease in collecting their honey, Thank you, again. I’ll have my eye out for the YouTube discussion.
OOH!!! Found this thread, thanks fab!
I am going to build this top bar hive - it is actually more of a Long Lang
http://www.horizontalhive.com/how-to-build/long-langstroth-plans.shtml
and then plan to put in flow frames
since the sides are not sloping the frames will fit right in.
do I need to include any of the “windows” in order to view the flow frames when I build this?
Thanks Ken! Did you see the langstroth tbh?
Hi Elizabeth, yes I have seen it, very interesting.
You won’t need to make a viewing window, that is just a nice way to get a good look at your bees. You will need to make cut outs in the side to insert the key and for extracting the honey and doing this will give you a little viewing window. Below are some instructions for modifying a langstroth hive, it should help to work out the measurements for your custom built bee box.
http://www.honeyflow.com/about-flow/modify-langstroth-box-for-flow/p/142
Good luck and I look forward to seeing how you go.
Thanks Jake. I will probably take the flow frames indoors to extract the honey, in which case if I understand, I won’t need the cut outs- am I correct? I would prefer no cut outs if possible.
How does one know when it is time to extract - can you tell by looking down at the top of the flow frame - or does one need to look at it from the side?
You will need to pull the frames out to see if they are ready to extract. Yes it is possible to pull the frames out and extract the honey away from the hive although that partly defeats the purpose of using Flow™ frames.
That is just what i wanted to do! Seeing the photos really help, i’ll do mine with the Langstroth brood box of my Flow Hive. When i finally get it!
HI Everyone,
I was gathering infos here and there for a while to build my first Hive and since i received the Flow Frames i got to work through 3D modeling. And here I am. I like to share this first draft with you all, i’m conviced you all could have some good advices and might be up to help me improve it! Cheers All!
I would really like to see how the flow perform in a horizontal application. Before I bought the full flow hive I was working on modifying plans for a horizontal Langstroth hive that would accept the flow frames very similar to what you put together just not as nice (see rough sketching with a pen and paper). I would love to see pictures of this hive if you ever build one.
WillB Your drawings look great, really wonderful. I too have mulling ove the way to marry the two systems together. I was worried about access of the bees as , I think they can only move around on the bottom under the flow frames and the entrance side. Is this enough? The other thing is where do you put the entrance? At the top like Michael Bush or lower down?
This brings in the thought are the brood frames recessed or not ?
I have added a photo of the hive I have been trying to nut out.
The insert of a frame with holes in the top found on a site of a Cathedral hive. The bees seem to use it to move around.
Cheers to All
A friend of mine made himself a long Langstroth hive & made a beautiful job of it.
After a few months of him using it, he was convinced that it didn’t perform anywhere near as good as his tradition lang hives.
That kind of surprised me because I’ve seen beehives in house ceilings & they were huge.
Hi Suses!
Thanks! About the brood frames as it works in a TBH they should be on the left side of the left part i guess, not really an expert. Anyway the Queen excluder will insure that only honey goes to the Flow Frames.
Something else i’m in contact with a great French beekeeper who organise lot of things in france Olivier Duprez
who told me about an forgotten but interesting Hive style : the Layens.
Interesting to discover and some ideas might be interesting to get in the concept.
http://www.ruchebio.com/ruche/warre/Olivier_Duprez_apiculteur_naturelle_en_calvados.html
(for those who got some notions of French )
About the entrance i was thinking of something like that.
It may be even possible to make a small periscope entrance there.
I will definitly build it, Well, not this exact one cose it still needs improvements, but really soon, I think i’m getting there.
btw: Thanks for the Post about “the Red Honey Hunt” pretty impressive!
I wonder if running longer frames would be helpful. Since standard Langstroth frames are meant to run vertically. If you went with a deep and a half for instance it might give the bees a better depth to put brood and honey etc where they want it. I have seen several off standard hives that use even double deep frames to achieve the same sort of concept.