With or without frames?

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Ok Horsehill honey, it’s me alright, all points taken, however you didn’t mention that I got the whole job done in 90 minutes when the Flow team said it should take 6-8 hours if your well organized. Oh the honey was warmed, not heated.

That’s OK Jeff…I understand. I think there is a fun aspect to the Flow Hive too. Certainly, commercial concerns will find it a challenge to change to that method of collecting honey. I use an extractor and crush and strain…both have their charms. The delicacy of some honeys are lost once out of the comb…so comb honey is much sought after. There are many ways of harvesting honey…one of the best ways… is brushing off the bees and cramming it in your mouth…totally yummy.
If you are selling to the public …here in the UK…there are many food hygiene regulations. I really enjoy your videos…about food and bees. We all have to be cognoscent that each country has different climates and traditions. That is what makes visiting other countries and cultures wonderful. I have been to Australia quite a number of times…but have not had the chance to see bees in action there. Your climate is so different and diverse to the UK…you are very lucky. The Flow Hive is fun…we must all enjoy and embrace it…whilst never forgetting that good Beekeeping comes first.

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Interesting presentation about foundation/foundationless beekeeping. It’s a bit long but great information.

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Pretty much when Michael speaks, I listen.

Lots of common sense and a wealth of experience and smart to boot.

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Hi & many thanks Hhh, I hope the Flow concept works, here, here, to your closing comments. take care, bye

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Looks a good idea to do one or 2 a year per hive

So if buying foundation I’ve been told not to buy Chinese only Australian, how can one tell the difference? Foundationless is sounding more easier and cheaper.

Any supplier should be able to give you information on where the item was manufactured. You can probably tell by the price as well…

I don’t live in Oz, but I have read that the authorities don’t like non-Oz wax. So if you buy from a reputable supplier, it should be Australian and “reasonably safe”. I know that @JeffH on this forum uses foundation in his hives, and he is extremely successful as a beekeeper. I am sure he will chime in at some point, and let you know where to get decent foundation.

I have always used foundation in the past, but I am going to try some foundation-less frames this season in the US. However, I will start by using frames of each in one hive, in fact I am going to be even more complicated… :blush: I am doing a mixture of all wax foundation, wax-coated plastic, wax strips, and bare wood (with craft stick guides). I have opinions about what will happen, but no evidence. I am going to keep records… :wink:

All the best,

Dawn

Hi @McFoxdale & thank you & hi @Dawn_SD, my foundation gets made at Kingaroy (Burnett Beekeeping Supplies), I swear by using wax foundation. It takes a little bit of time to get used to putting it on the frames properly. If it’s not done properly, you can end up with a real mess. Like in this video:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x59OTquPxo Good luck with everything, bye:)

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