Veroa SEQ Not sure where to go from here

Hi

SEQ, 2nd year beekeeper

Found veroa and treated the hive with Bayvarol strips ,on the 27th of February it will be six weeks since we treated

Before we treated we harvested 2 frames of honey and left the rest for the bees , the flow frames are now full again and now I’m not sure what to do , I will do a wash test again 27th and check numbers against the first test , if they have come down do I still need to treat again or wait 2 weeks and test the numbers once more , I know not to use the same treatment back to back , any recommendations?

Now that super is full again ,should I go about harvesting some honey , is it fit for consumption(bayvarol treated 6 weeks) or not ,if not do you just harvest to create space to keep the bees working and what do you do with the honey if you can’t use it for personal consumption

TIA

Clive

Hi Clive,

It’s Wilma here.

This is what the Bayvoral chemical fact sheet says.

You need to decide for yourself what you will do.

QUOTE: Bayvarol is a sustained release plastic strip designed for use in beehives to control parasitic mites
(Varroa destructor) on honey bees
DIRECTIONS FOR USE: Read the enclosed insert for complete DIRECTIONS FOR USE.
PRECAUTIONS: KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. Wear long-sleeved shirt, long
pants, chemical-resistant gloves (e.g., nitrile gloves), socks and shoes when handling the strips.
Leather beekeeping gloves must not be worn when handling this product. Wash hands
thoroughly with soap and warm water after removing gloves.
Do not expose honey intended for human consumption directly to Bayvarol Strips. After
treatment, do not use beeswax for human consumption. Flumethrin is toxic to fish. Do not
contaminate aquatic systems by storage or disposal of Bayvarol strips.
Do not use strips while honey supers are present on the beehives.
If this pest control product is to be used on a commodity that may be exported to the
U. S. and you require information on acceptable residue levels in the U. S. visit CropLife
Canada’s website at www.croplife.ca
FIRST AID:
If ingested: Call a poison control centre or doctor immediately for treatment advice. Have person
sip a glass of water if able to swallow. Do not induce vomiting unless told to do so by a poison
control centre or doctor. Do not give anything by mouth to an unconscious person.
If on skin or clothing: Take off contaminated clothing. Rinse skin immediately with plenty of
water for 15-20 minutes. Call a poison control centre or doctor for treatment advice.
If inhaled: Move person to fresh air. If person is not breathing, call 911 or an ambulance, then
give artificial respiration, preferably by mouth-to-mouth, if possible. Call a poison control centre
or doctor for further treatment advice.
If in eyes: Hold eye open and rinse slowly and gently with water for 15–20 minutes. Remove
contact lenses, if present, after the first 5 minutes, then continue rinsing eye. Call a poison
control centre or doctor for treatment advice.
Take container, label or product name and Pest Control Product Registration Number
with you when seeking medical attention.
TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION: Treat symptomatically.
ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS
TOXIC to aquatic organisms. DO NOT contaminate irrigation or drinking water supplied or
aquatic habitats by disposal of used strips and packaging.
STORAGE: Keep strips in original, unopened package until ready to use. Do not store above
25°C. Do not store unused strips in anything but original package. Do not store unused strips 2013-1617
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near pesticides or other chemical substances that could contaminate the strips and result in bee
toxicity. Do not contaminate food, feed or water by the storage and/or disposal of this product.
DISPOSAL: Do not reuse the strips or empty packaging. Dispose of packaging (foil wrap) and
the used strips in accordance with provincial requirements. For information on disposal of
unused, unwanted product, contact the manufacturer or the provincial regulatory agency. Contact
the manufacturer and the provincial regulatory agency in case of a spill, and for clean-up of
spills.
NOTICE TO USER: This pest control product is to be used only in accordance with the
directions on the label. It is an offence under the Pest Control Products Act to use this
product in a way that is inconsistent with the directions on the label. The user assumes
the risk to persons or property that arises from any such use. END QUOTE.

I have been researching what they are doing in Europe and we are going to go with essential oils and probably oxalic acid.

In relation to the Bayvoral treated honey you have to decide for yourself after reading Bayvoral’s fact sheet.

Bio security is now saying you can treat with Bayvoral strips with the honey super in place.

Australia is the only country to allow Bayvarol to be applied with supers on. Predictably, as the only synthetic option that allows supers on, it’s been abused and resistant mites have been found in northern NSW. It won’t be long before Bayvarol is useless.

The argument for using it with supers is that the potential contamination is below the harmful threshold. For me, my threshold is zero for synthetic treatments which are either Class 5 or Class 6 poison. I know plenty of beekeepers who eat and sell their Bayvarol honey without concern. It’s a choice, but the label is the law, so they’re complying with the law.

AluenCAP, the commercial oxalic acid strip treatment will soon be available and can be preordered now. It can be used with supers on and does not contaminate anything.

On deciding when to treat, it’s up to you. Keep doing washes. When the count reaches threshold, treat. The official threshold levels are guidelines, not law. You decide the threshold for your conditions. If you don’t have SHB, you could choose a higher threshold. If you’re going on a trip, you might start a slow release treatment before you leave even though the count is low, because mite number increase exponentially, potentially wiping out your colony while you’re away.

There’s a series of workshops planned for locations around QLD this winter. Keep an eye out, there might be one near you. Much to learn.

Mike

Hi Wilma

Thanks for the information you provided and I have read up a fair since , it’s the usual story I suppose where everyone has a different opinion and it’s up to me to decide what I do with the honey, I will be doing a follow up wash this weekend and see where we at

Thanks

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As per my previous reply to Wilma , thanks for the information and the reply Mike , just for a bench mark my first wash had 32 mites and my wife has her own hive too as we don’t agree on how to raise the girls’:grin:

Hers only had a count of about 21

We will do a wash this weekend and put the numbers up

Those mite counts are high and will escalate rapidly without intervention. Both hives need treatment as a priority. Overseas, viruses vectored by mites are the main concern, but here it’s small hive beetle. Colonies collapse within a week or two as SHB overwhelms the varroa weakened bees.

Although you have differing opinions on hive management, you will need to be coordinated on treating. The untreated hive will quickly reinfest the treated. Use different treatments if you must, but treat at the same time.

Mike

Hi Mike

I have treated the hives as mentioned before with Bayvarol

It will be 6 weeks this Saturday and will remove the Bayvarol and do another wash to see where I’m at if the numbers have come down or not

Thanks

Ok. Thats the right approach, test and respond as needed.

Bayvarol is the first synthetic to show up with mite resistance in northern NSW. It won’t be long before it’s useless. Be prepared for alternatives.