Newbees and old Beeks

Valli !! Thankz for that quick turn around. You must have you phone or computer tune in here :+1:. Have a great weekend !
Gerald

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I’ve Finally got time off from work after 6 weeks of live in

I don’t think it really matters, it is more about having an alkaline paste on the sting, rather than a specific chemical. All toothpaste is alkaline to overcome the action of acidic bacterial plaque.

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I wonder who that older died in the wool beek is:)

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When I first started at our Local Apiary, many of the Older Beeks were very sceptical about Flow Frames. Since I have joined in, done the courses, helped on the Local Stall, learning to make skeps, getting involved with the husbandry and tomorrow helping at Gardener’s World Live making skeps on the stand, the reception from the older beeks has become quite genial.

I think they were worried that Flow Users were only in it for the Honey. They can see I’m interested and willing to learn and they are more open now and actually ask how my Flow hive is coming. One was walking by my house and came into look at my set up.

One or 2 things they do I don’t agree with, but it is they way they have been shown, some ideas are good, but the more I learn some things can be taken with a pinch of salt.

Treating Nosema from my local apiary and from my bee supplier in Wales were completely different. I use ideas from both and have experimented with my own methods and I seem to do well

Hi Jeff,
I notice on your Youtube channel you have a couple of videos making negative statements about the flow hive system, as well as agreeing with the negative statements made in the comments section.

Now that you have been involved with this forum for a number of months, and have seen the success other members of this forum have had with keeping bees using the flow hive system, has your opinion of the flow hive changed?

I wouldn’t call my comments about the flow hive negative, more like observations. The only observations I made that you could rule out is what I said about water sitting on the bottom board & not draining out. The sbb fixes that, plus even without the sbb, you could drill holes in a solid floor to drain water out.

What I said about lack of room for the bees to circulate air is kind of valid, however bees always find a rout to circulate the air. Basically you could call that concern “invalid”.

I always knew the flow hive worked. I saw it in the video. I never questioned that at all. I didn’t count on people having issues with honey leaking over the brood, so much that it runs out of the bottom of the hive.

What I said about bees preferring beeswax to plastic will always be a valid point. Everything else I said is proving to be valid. Not to mention the unforeseen.

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Yes I remember you talking about the older dyed in the wool beeks even before you got your first hive. It will be funny if you discover after a few seasons that those older beeks had the best methods all along.

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yes, likely but one would never know for some of it can not be communicated totally correctly via any forum or even a youtube video. For today I witness my first power suger mit check. WOW did I not get it or understand how simple it could be.

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That wasn’t the part I was addressing, but my response is pretty much the same. Having information or some information is not the same as knowledge or experience. The manner in which one presents something in any conversation affects how it is received, I think the Flow Hive is a very good example of that.
Generalising and /or denigrating a person or group because opinions/experiences differ does nothing to forward a conversation & an engaged exchange of information/knowledge/practice.

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I have not read all replies but have been peeking in on Flow Hive Forum conversations and have enjoyed input and are “getting to know” the members. I am new to bee keeping and realize as soon as I purchased a flow hive and I jumped onto the forum I had a lot to learn. Just like anything some jump in and sink and some swim. I bought the Flow Hive as initial sponsor and JUST put hive together a few days ago. I have even learned that it is not a “hive” without the bees. :slight_smile: Everything you said is correct. But just like all new parents when we birth a child we soon realize all that you have said. First I bought the BEE crib and I fixed the BEE room, then with glee I was going to have BEES. I wait and I wait and finally they are soon to BEE and now all of the stuff to care for those needs to BEE purchased. $$$$$ Then more stuff as the bundle of joys come in the wrong size box. So next you change the diaper and you have to open that Hive. That is when you become a BEE KEEPER. That is when you now learn about the BEEhavior :slight_smile: That is my analogy. Hopefully for me and I am sure for many that this is not my first child. I started with 4 chickens :slight_smile: Have you heard that one? Anyways enjoy your posts and I am learning and I hear you as I am also an organic farmer. Lastly to add, I was shocked to hear that my neighboring farmer had 4 hives and ALL the extractor stuff. Then to learn she had paid “Beekeepers” and the beekeepers moved. “She did thought she saw bees in 2 of the 4 hives” :frowning: So there’s the other side. I offered to help her get going and open and check the hives. When I got Flow Hive it was because I did not want to mess with the bees I wanted honey and pollination for my farm. Plus add to the eco system and Save the BEES.

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I’m in the same boat. I’ve bought a Flow Hive, but I haven’t bought a nuc yet - probably will do that in the spring of 2017. I have no idea what I’m doing beyond what I’m reading and studying. I don’t even know how to get the bees into the hive, how to sequester the queen, etc. Still lots of learning to do here.

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As you say Spring 2017, I assume you are Northern hemisphere. To give more accurate help for any other questions you may have, it is really useful if you can fill in your approximate location in the profile section of your personal details. If you want a nucleus, you might need to order it now. My area sells out in November/December for the next season. If you join a local beekeeping club, you may find a club member who will sell you a nucleus and help you install it. It is actually very easy - just lift the frames out of the transport box, and put them into your hive in the same order and orientation that they came out. Fill the remaining space with empty frames (with or without foundation) so that you have 8 frames total. Close up the hive and you are done.

If you mean how to stop her from laying in honey stores, that is what the queen excluder is for - you should have one in your kit. Some people don’t use one. If you use 2 or 3 brood boxes, you may not need one, as the queen will tend to prefer laying in the lower part of the hive. If you have real winters (cold and wet), you will probably do very well to have at least 2 brood boxes. You won’t put the second box in the hive until your colony is bursting at the seams, but it is good to have it as soon as you get your bees - you never know how fast they are going to grow.

Good luck and welcome to the Flow forum! :wink:

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Be blessed you can purchased nuc. Better than to look for the illusive hive in the wild. :slight_smile:

Just for interest, I have purchased all my bee stuff on ebay at a quarter of the cost and with the quality still 100 percent.You have to wait a few weeks,but suit $49, Gloves,$6.00, smoker $15. Most come from China but still great, Dont get sucked in to paying hundreds of dollars for equipment. Even my local beekeeper was amazed at the prices I paid, so it pays to do some research and shop around. Cheers…

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Great way to support the local beekeeping community.

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Well, it is only information. People can use it or not. I dont have the money to pay $150 for a suit and $80 for gloves. If paying those prices is supporting the local beekeeping community then I am very sorry, but as a pensioner I have to make sure my dollars go a long way and I dont have that sort of money. Everyone who has read my post, please do not buy anything on eBay because you are not supporting the local beekeeping community.

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Well said Kirsten! It is not worth the effort being in the forum to be criticised!!!

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Time to take a chill pill RBK and get off your high horse. Not everyone has the money to invest in local goods. People like you make me not want to share anything on this forum. It was information given in the spirit of helping people get involved without costing them a fortune. Let it go.

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Yeah shame on people for having different opinions…

I have no problem with purchasing from eBay. I have done and will continue to do so.
I have no problem purchasing from my local bee keeping suppliers. I have done and will continue to do so.

It probably all comes from China anyway…

I like sitting on fences.
:wink:

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