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Using Flow Super with Apimaye Brood Box


#1

There was a separate post about this, but not much action. Hoping someone can vouch for using a Flow Super on an Apimaye Brood Box… Any issues with the top cover?


#2

There was some info on the thermosolar hives on this thread:

I think it’s the same product?


#3

Thanks Faroe for the link. Not quite the same - I’m looking at the Apimaye primarily due to their plastic insulated hives (and they’re established. Seems like the indiegogo supporters are having trouble getting their Thermosolar hives :grimacing:


#4

Here’s the link to the Apimaye hives: https://apimaye-usa.com/shop/


#5

As nobody seems to have much experience with this system, could I suggest addressing it from the other way around? You could ask Apimaye directly if their boxes are compatible with 8 or 10-frame Langstroth boxes. That should be very simple for them to answer. The 6 frame Flow super is the same size as a standard 8-frame Langstroth deep, while the 7-frame super is a 10-frame Lang size.

I would not use the Apimaye roof on a flow super, it would get in the way of the Flow mechanism and knobs on the Flow key cover. However, you could put a standard inner cover on top of the flow super, and then a 2"-deep “mountain feeder”, if the Apimaye lid is also Langstroth compatible.

I think Apimaye would be happy to answer your questions. I would, if I ran that company, and it looks like a nice product, so i am sure they care about their (potential) customers.


#6

The apimaye hive boxes and lid are langstroth compatible. I have these hives and love them. I do not know if the lid would be an issue, though. I know of someone else who’s looking for info about this. I will update if she is able to find anything out.


#7

I don’t have bees yet, but I can confirm that the flow super fits on top of the apimaye boxes just fine. However, from what I recall, I did make one minor modification so that the apimaye top cover and feeder would sit well – I removed the top half inch or so of some thin strip of wood near the top inside of the flow super, simply by prying at it with a screwdriver. I don’t quite remember why that was necessary, but it was easy. Another minor thing is that the front top piece of wood on the flow super, that you remove in order to insert the key, cannot be removed when the apimaye top cover is on because it hangs down a bit. But that’s no big deal because the top feeder will keep the bees contained even when the top cover is removed.

Fwiw, both products seem high quality, but I don’t have any “real” experience with them yet, so take this with a grain of salt. Hope it helps.


#8

I was looking for posts on the Apimaye here, and found this one, so I thought I would dive in, even though it’s an old conversation.

It is impossible to modify the Apimaye supers to accommodate Flow Frame, without ruining them at least. With that said, you can easily place a standard 10 (7 Flows) frame super onto the Apimaye hive.


#9

Hi Tripp,

If they have the same dimensions you could put the Flow Super on top of an Apimaye hive.
I think it may be hard to modify their boxes with a saw to fit the Flow Frames.
You could ask them if you can saw through them?
Here are our free modification instructions:
https://www.honeyflow.com/faqs/all/modifying-a-langstroth-box-for-flow-frames/p/143#a1

The other option is putting the Flow Frames inside of their Super, but you would need to remove the Flow Frames for the honey extraction.
It is possible but could make the harvesting more difficult outside of the hive, as when they are inside the Super all together, it prevents the Flow Frames from bending too much side to side.

You can also just get a Flow Hive, and apply insulation around the hive, if that is what you are concerned about? Insulating the hive?

Let me know if you decide to experiment with them or need more information :slight_smile:
:honeybee:


#10

Thanks. I’m good though. You went into more detail than I did, but what I was suggesting is what you said. Take a standard 10 frame box, and modify it to accommodate Flow frames.

Insofar as putting 7 Flow frames inside the Apimaye super and pulling them out to extract, I haven’t tried it, but I suspect they may not quite fit. The Apimaye boxes seem to be made SLIGHTLY under length for standard Langstroth frames. This is quite annoying actually. I mean, the bees will propolize frames in a standard box, and make them fit slightly wrong, but with the Apimaye box already being slightly too short (forwards and backwards, not in actual height), the plastic Flow frames are probably not something I would want to shave a millimeter off of to make them fit correctly.

I have both Flow frames, and an Apimaye 10 frame hive, I will try and see if the frames fit into the box, just so I can give a definitive answer to the question.

Insofar as insulating either a Flow Hive, or standard hives, up to Apimaye standards, I don’t mean to sound like an Apimaye salesman, because I’m not, but I’ll say that the Apimaye is just an incredible system. The only failing I see in it is the lack of an 8 frame version. 10 Frame supers are just heavy! I am wanting to get one (or more) of their 7 frame nucs, which can be split to have 2 3 frame sides. The trays, ventilation, pollen catching, entrances, and feeding mechanisms on these hives are just amazing! And at ~$200 for a full hive, which includes the feeders, excluders, and everything, I don’t think they are expensive at all. If they come out with an 8 framer, then I daresay I’ll go all-in and switch over completely, except for my Flow supers! Well, and my top bars, and long hives, so maybe not “all-in.”